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Theodosivs
01-26-2007, 12:40 AM
Lol, nothing has changed Flipper:

In his report of the Morea and the Greek civil strife in his book The Fall of the Byzantine Empire: A Chronicle by George Sphrantzes 1401-1477 (modern name):

The base and most useless race of the Arbanities took advantage of the present situation, which suitable to their reputation and thievish disposition. What they neglect to do, what crime did they not commit? For their broken faith, sometimes twice in the same Sabbath and were always deserting one lord for the other. They demanded, in their own tongue, castles for their estates; if they were denied by one lord they would run to the other despot, while the rest would then approach the first despot in a similar way. In the meantime, of they found anything belonging to the unfortunate Romans [Greeks] and even to the Arbanities, to their relatives and dependants, they would plunder and destroy it. Who could provide an adequet lamentation over such great misfortunes?

:laugh:

Flipper
01-26-2007, 05:37 AM
Lol, nothing has changed Flipper:

In his report of the Morea and the Greek civil strife in his book The Fall of the Byzantine Empire: A Chronicle by George Sphrantzes 1401-1477 (modern name):

The base and most useless race of the Arbanities took advantage of the present situation, which suitable to their reputation and thievish disposition. What they neglect to do, what crime did they not commit? For their broken faith, sometimes twice in the same Sabbath and were always deserting one lord for the other. They demanded, in their own tongue, castles for their estates; if they were denied by one lord they would run to the other despot, while the rest would then approach the first despot in a similar way. In the meantime, of they found anything belonging to the unfortunate Romans [Greeks] and even to the Arbanities, to their relatives and dependants, they would plunder and destroy it. Who could provide an adequet lamentation over such great misfortunes?

:laugh:

Theodosivs, this is sad rather than funny. Some could relate this to the present day. And what if that is one side of the story? On the bright side, it was the Byzantium that invited them and in the end, this story ended in a good way.

Just a possitive though. A speculation.

Orphic_Hymn
01-26-2007, 05:48 AM
In his report of the Morea and the Greek civil strife in his book The Fall of the Byzantine Empire: A Chronicle by George Sphrantzes 1401-1477 (modern name):

[i]The base and most useless race of the Arbanities took advantage of the present situation,


Sorry but this is not a reference to ARvanites but to ALvanites:

39.8 Ἔτι δὲ καὶ τὸ κάκιστον καὶ ἀφελέστατον γένος τῶν Ἀλβανιτῶν, καιροῦ λαβόμενον τῆς ὑπολήψεως καὶ ἁρπακτικῆς αὐτῶν γνώμης ἁρμο δίου, τί οὐκ ἔπραξαν ᾒ τί οὐκ εἰργάσαντο κακόν; Ἀπιστοῦντες γὰρ δὶς τοῦ σαββάτου, ἀπὸ τὸν ἕνα τῶν αὐθεντῶν εἰς τὸν ἄλλον ἀπήρχοντο· καὶ κάστρα, ὡς ἡ ἐκείνων γλῶσσα, εἰς κεφαλατίκια ἀπῄτουν, εἰ δ' οὖν, εἰς τὸν ἄλλον ἀπήρχοντο καὶ οἱ ἄλλοι πρὸς τὸν ἕτερον τῶν δεσποτῶν ὁμοίως. Διὰ μέσου οὖν, εἴ τι ἆρα καὶ εὕρισκον τῶν ἀθλίων τάχα Ῥωμαίων, ἀλλὰ δὴ καὶ τῶν Ἀλβανιτῶν καὶ συγγενῶν πολλάκις καὶ οἰκείων αὐτῶν, πάντα διηρπάζοντο καὶ ἠφάνιζον.