First "Macedonian" church in Canada

[Tsontos]

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9387/firstskopchurch1911fc8.jpg

[Ehetlaios]

Am I the only one who sees bulgarian flags up there?

[Titus]

Am I the only one who sees bulgarian flags up there?

Don't worry, it's they who don't see them. They also don't see the Bulgarian flags in the engravings of the supposedly "Macedonian" Ilinden Uprising. :lol:

[Flipper]

I tink i thaw a Bulgarian flag...

[yannis-3]

poy tin eidate tin Boylgariki simea?
apla kapios mperdeytike kai ebale tis ITALIKES simees anapoda:clapping: :clap2:
AYTOYS TOYS FTINEIS KAI AYTOI EPIMENOYN OTI BREXEI
http://209.85.12.227/497/95/upload/p2428498.jpg

[Amyntas]

I heard that this church today is still bulgarian :lol:

[Tsontos]

Anyone have a pic of that canadian school the skops had pictures of where it said makedonski, but it an enlargened version it said Bulgarski right above it?

[Amyntas]

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1706/stavroschoolji4.jpg

[edessa]

farr out they had boxheads even back then. Look at the poor kid 3rd from the right, last row!!

[yannis-3]

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7384/schooljifh4.jpg
MAKEDONO-BULGAPCKH:clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :rotflmao:

[Tsontos]

I saw a skop post it on network54 and then a Bulgarian pointed out the bulgarski part:laugh:

[Christov]

Am I the only one who sees bulgarian flags up there?It must be a Mass-Mirage :lol:

[Ehetlaios]

It must be a Mass-Mirage :lol:

Well for a second I thought it could be a russian flag...

[Christov]

Well for a second I thought it could be a russian flag...yeah, but definately not the one with the star

[nsminc]

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/9651/skopkiddi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3848/skopkid2yi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[sveti dimitrija]

I wonder if it was the evil "Exarchate" priest who gave the people the flag before they emigrated.

Do not forget Exarchate priests in Macedonia had just as hard a job as Patriarchist priests sent from the South. It wouldn't have been easy trying to "convert" foreign populations.

[Euklid]

Your people were converted by Cyril and Methodius, in case you didnt know...by the Patriarchate, the Exarchate's job was even easier to control because it controlled the people in their own tongue..;) While the Patriarchate was and is still using pure ancient KOINE, the language of Alexander.

And the Evil Exarchate gave them the flag, and they chose to honour even i faraway lands...i find it very hard to follow your line of thinking.

[sveti dimitrija]

Your people were converted by Cyril and Methodius, in case you didnt know...by the Patriarchate, the Exarchate's job was even easier to control because it controlled the people in their own tongue..;) While the Patriarchate was and is still using pure ancient KOINE, the language of Alexander.

No even the Exarchate priests had a language barrier. Albeit not as bad. My understanding of my native tongue is quite advanced, but I would not be able to converse to someone in Bulgarian. But who am I say, lets leave it up to scholars from the South, who have no knowledge of either language.:lol:


And the Evil Exarchate gave them the flag, and they chose to honour even i faraway lands...i find it very hard to follow your line of thinking.


The point here is that people who emigrated from a village 5 kilometres down the road from those in the photo, were probably given a "GreeK" flag by an evil Patriarchist priest in order for them to hoist it on the new church they build in Canada.

[sveti dimitrija]

Your people were converted by Cyril and Methodius, in case you didnt know...by the Patriarchate, the Exarchate's job was even easier to control because it controlled the people in their own tongue..;) While the Patriarchate was and is still using pure ancient KOINE, the language of Alexander.

No even the Exarchate priests had a language barrier. Albeit not as bad. My understanding of my native tongue is quite advanced, but I would not be able to converse to someone in Bulgarian. But who am I say, lets leave it up to scholars from the South, who have no knowledge of either language.





And the Evil Exarchate gave them the flag, and they chose to honour even i faraway lands...i find it very hard to follow your line of thinking.



The point here is that people who emigrated from a village 5 kilometres down the road from those in the photo, were probably given a "GreeK" flag by an evil Patriarchist priest in order for them to hoist it on the new church they build in Canada.

[Euklid]

Sorry love but your point doesnt make any sense. Elaborate more and we shall discuss.

And secondly, i have witnessed various conversations between Bulgarians and SlavoMacedonians, and i have seen first hand your communication, so please spare me the "advanced FYROMIAN user" stuff.

[Amyntas]

Your people in your homecountry can have a conversation with bulgarians without facing any problem. Surprisingly your diaspora people say that they arent able to do so. You know why? Because they hate the fact that their language is so closely related (if not a dialect) with the bulgarian language.

[Spartan]

"It wouldn't have been easy trying to "convert" foreign populations."

WHAT??

You mean that your people were not already under the Exharcate?

You seem to forget that your MAK church was created during the communist years and not before! So the only churches your people ever knew were the Patriarchate and the Exarchate, but the Exarchate was created by your people with permission from the Porte!

How old are you?

[Hellas7]

No even the Exarchate priests had a language barrier. Albeit not as bad.

Are you kidding? Before the Serbinization of the language it was even closer to Bulgarian... anyone remember those threads at maknews about the "old dialect"... :laugh:


My understanding of my native tongue is quite advanced, but I would not be able to converse to someone in Bulgarian.


Bullshit. Then you will have no problem whatsoever in testing this theory with Christov who is a Bulgaian.

Go ahead guys, lets see how much you understand each other? Put your money where your mouth is.

[Amyntas]

Bullshit. Then you will have no problem whatsoever in testing this theory with Christov who is a Bulgaian.

Go ahead guys, lets see how much you understand each other? Put your money where your mouth is.

Some people pretend like they dont understand :lol:

[sveti dimitrija]

Some people pretend like they dont understand :lol:


I would be able to understand bits and pieces of what a Bulgarian is saying but I would not be able to have a coherent conversation.

[Hellas7]

Christov can you test this theory with him?

I have asked many Bulgarians and Skopjans and the most common answer is they are 95% understandable.

[Tsontos]

I would be able to understand bits and pieces of what a Bulgarian is saying but I would not be able to have a coherent conversation.

hahah

[Amyntas]

I would be able to understand bits and pieces of what a Bulgarian is saying but I would not be able to have a coherent conversation.

I once had a bulgarian friend who talked to one of your people telling him that he is from strumica. After more than an hour of talking the bulgarian told your skopian that he is from bulgaria. Suddenly the skopian was telling that all the time he wasnt able to understand anything :lol:. I repeat after more than an hour of talking without having any problems! On the other hand you only have diaspora people pretending like they dont understand the bulgarians :rolleyes:

[Christov]

My understanding of my native tongue is quite advanced, but I would not be able to converse to someone in Bulgarian.:lol: :lol: :lol: are you sure?

[Tsontos]

Australian Macedonian Church (http://mak-truth.com/fe_churc.htm)

[Spiz4]

Sorry love but your point doesnt make any sense. Elaborate more and we shall discuss.

And secondly, i have witnessed various conversations between Bulgarians and SlavoMacedonians, and i have seen first hand your communication, so please spare me the "advanced FYROMIAN user" stuff.

spare us with your crap trying to denounce that you are linguistically unable to speak and conduct a verbal communication with someon eof bulgarian decent... Can you not conduct a conversation with someone of serbian or montenegran decent either? Same mate different dialect and u gypsies have just changed a few of the words around.....

what i have yet to see is one of you fyromanians present any clear evidence of your historical connection to those ancient macedonians....

Is there any reason why these blockheads get banned.. leave them on this forum so we can see how uneducated these people are....

[Draco]

I think the Skopjian-Bulgarian case may be comparable to the Greek-Cretan or Greek-Cypriot cases. A speaker of standard Skopjian may have difficulty fully understanding a conversation between two Bulgarians if they are speaking quickly however he can fully communicate with a Bulgarian if they both enunciate clearly enough. Regarding written texts, I doubt that apart from a few Serb loanwords in Skopjian, the text would not be mutually comprehensible.

[Greek-Cowboy]

this is in Toronto canada, I live in the city, these people are not Skopjani, they are Dopous from Florina and Kastoria, these are the fevgatous(begitsi) that left and believe in the Bulgarian Propaganda. They believe in a Macedonian culture separate from the Greek factual/ proven history. they still exist and believe thier own history ..... so true

[Greek-Cowboy]

St. Dimitrija Solunski Festival - Markham, Ontario 2007 (http://www.makedonskakafana.com/StDimitrijaSolunskiFestivalMarkhamOntario2007/)




Look at the pictures the majority of these people are from Florina and Kastoria

Look at her stoli........and look at the Bulgarian Priest they have there.

GC

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