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Komitadji
01-23-2007, 04:28 PM
Makedonian movie from 1958 "MISS STONE"

Hello everyone, this is a movie filmed in 1958 in Republika Makedonia.
As a part of the cultural discours between our two nations, I recomend you watch this mivie. The Movie is split into 8 parts and uploaded on the youtube.
Here you will find interesting things about the life in Macedonia during 1903, the VMRO, and the Revolution. Interesting villages and costumes.

About the movie:

The resistance against the Ottoman Empire in Macedonia is rising.
Numerous bands of "komiti" prove the readiness of the Macedonian people to fight for their freedom.

At the same time different religious missions are trying to spread their influence among the people. The center of the American Protestant Mission is in Salonica. After they had received permission to open a protestant course in Bansko, Pirin-Macedonia, the missionaries were on their way. The group of missionaries consists of the American Miss Helen Stone and Mr. and Mrs. Tsilka, Macedonians raised in America.

Their leaving Salonica will be used by the organization called VMRO (Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization) as means of drawing the attention of world public opinion towards the situation in Macedonia and to raise money for the armaments of new groups of freedom fighters. This is why the men of Jane Sandanski kidnap Helen Stone and asks for 25. OOO golden liras ransom from the Turkish Government. In the beginning, Miss Stone, being a pacifist, disapproves of the "komiti" but later, witnessing what the Macedonian people have to stand to survive and going through combat actions with the Turks, she turns to the side of the "komiti" and writes the letter by which the demands of the VMRO will be realized.

Enjoy the movie guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc86bexe1hM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM33uyidxUc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AhRpxJDv58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmu4Dtl3uyQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjOi4BaMUeo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snl9JsCooQI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi94oHra2og
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lleyi4bpIUk

Amarantos
01-23-2007, 06:55 PM
I saw a couple of videos and extracts by the others.I believe it's a propaganda film for internal consumption in the frame of Yugoslavia ,as it was produced on 1958, and of fyrom nowdays.
Gosh,komitadjides were impressive!When they kidnaped the american missionary with her friends ,in the first episode, they nearly offered on that bridge where events took place the six o'clock tea to their future hostages :laugh: :laugh:
One komitadji even cleaned the hostage from dust.:laugh:
By the way ,speaking of the crime of taking someone away by force ,that is kidnap ,did you noticed in the video about how the authorities of the Republic of Skopje kidnaped and executed the pakistani people, with the blond ""makedonka"" ,how she wiped her hand on her dress after the handshake with that boskovki guy? :unsure: OOhhh.......

Sad they did not released those too,as their ancestors did in fiction.Maybe because there could never be a ransom for the poor pakistanis :unsure:

Tsontos
01-23-2007, 07:05 PM
Makedonian movie from 1958 "MISS STONE"

Hello everyone, this is a movie filmed in 1958 in Republika Makedonia.

Do you mean it was produced in the Yugoslav Federative Peoples Republic of Macedonia?

Was the director from Belgrade or Skopje? :lol:

Komitadji
01-23-2007, 07:09 PM
Sad they did not released those too,as their ancestors did in fiction.Maybe because there could never be a ransom for the poor pakistanis :unsure:

Amarantos bre Amarantos... The eternal provocateur :)

Man, I was talking about the movie. This is teh pre-ilinten period.
No anti-greek propaganda is involved, that's what makes the movie so honnest and great.

You must agree that the fighting scene in the end is impressive.
And awsome scenography..

Komitadji
01-23-2007, 07:10 PM
Do you mean it was produced in the Yugoslav Federative Peoples Republic of Macedonia?

Was the director from Belgrade or Skopje? :lol:

Yes that's right. It was made by the Socialist Republik os Macedonia (a part of SFRY then).

The director is a Makedonets, like most of the acters.

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My favorite scene in the film is the one when the old komitadji gives miss Ston some rakia (something like your uzo), and she (as a puritan as she is) says:
-"No, no Mandana, it's the devil's potion"

Heheheheh :))))

Amarantos
01-23-2007, 07:15 PM
Do you mean it was produced in the Yugoslav Federative Peoples Republic of Macedonia?

Was the director from Belgrade or Skopje? :lol:

Ha ha ,nice question!!!Mr Zivorad 'Zika' Mitrovic,director of the film, was born
on 3 September 1921 in Belgrade.Who knows,maybe he took orders from above.:unsure: Nooo,what relation could politics have with culture back in 1958 in Yugoslavia under marshal Tito???

edessa
01-23-2007, 11:00 PM
mad movie...did it win the jugoslav oscars that year?

Tsontos
01-24-2007, 01:54 AM
Yes that's right. It was made by the Socialist Republik os Macedonia (a part of SFRY then).

The director is a Makedonets, like most of the acters.

...

My favorite scene in the film is the one when the old komitadji gives miss Ston some rakia (something like your uzo), and she (as a puritan as she is) says:
-"No, no Mandana, it's the devil's potion"

Heheheheh :))))

Raki is not Ouzo. We have Raki as well, its Turkish etymologically.

BTW The director was:

Mr Zivorad 'Zika' Mitrovic,director of the film, was born
on 3 September 1921 in Belgrade

A typical comintern moron.

taikou
01-24-2007, 12:37 PM
Yes that's right. It was made by the Socialist Republik os Macedonia (a part of SFRY then).

The director is a Makedonets, like most of the acters.



Very enjoyable film.
The director of the film,SERBIAN Zivorad Mitrovic is one of the greatest directors in YU-history.He is noted mostly for war movies(even though he engaged in various genres),and many today still considers one of his works 'Mars na Drinu' as the best YU-film ever.

I think that Mitrovic made this film exclusively for entertainment purpose,and not for 'educating the mass' or so(which was indeed common in former communist countries).The inaccuracies are endless,and it seems to me that he left them untouched just for entertainment's sake.

Komitadji
01-24-2007, 12:40 PM
Very enjoyable film.

I think that Mitrovic made this film exclusively for entertainment purpose,and not for 'educating the mass' or so(which was indeed common in former communist countries).The inaccuracies are endless,and it seems to me that he left them untouched just for entertainment's sake.

Thanks Taikou :)

Yes, I made a mistake, the director was not Makedonets, but the scenario of the film (the sujet) was made by Georgi Abadjiev, a great Makedonski writer.

Istor
01-25-2007, 09:47 AM
At those times EVERYTHING in YU was for mass manipulation, that is propagandizing. The point is that SlavoSkopians still doing the same things: everything for propaganda.

Gligorof: we are just SlavoSkopians.

Bre Komi, how do you SlavoSkopians recognize each other as SlavoSkopian?

yannis-3
01-25-2007, 11:44 AM
Miss Stone, being a pacifist, disapproves of the "komiti" but later, witnessing what the Macedonian people have to stand to survive and going through combat actions with the Turks, she turns to the side of the "komiti" and writes the letter by which the demands of the VMRO will be realized.



Stockholm syndrome

The Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response sometimes seen in an abducted hostage, in which the hostage exhibits loyalty to the hostage-taker, in spite of the danger (or at least risk) in which the hostage has been placed. Stockholm syndrome is also sometimes discussed in reference to other situations with similar tensions, such as battered person syndrome, rape cases, child abuse cases, and bride kidnapping.
Stockholm syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome)

Ervald
01-25-2007, 01:09 PM
Amarantos bre Amarantos... The eternal provocateur :)

Man, I was talking about the movie. This is teh pre-ilinten period.
No anti-greek propaganda is involved, that's what makes the movie so honnest and great.

You must agree that the fighting scene in the end is impressive.
And awsome scenography..

sllavs were all the time using propaganda against the native population of the ballkans. First you conquer then you start the 'brain' war by using everything, mostly religion to identify your kind and to gain 'some' friends who have nothing in common to share with you.

kali sou nyxta 'bre'

Reaper
01-25-2007, 05:37 PM
Stockholm syndrome

The Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response sometimes seen in an abducted hostage, in which the hostage exhibits loyalty to the hostage-taker, in spite of the danger (or at least risk) in which the hostage has been placed. Stockholm syndrome is also sometimes discussed in reference to other situations with similar tensions, such as battered person syndrome, rape cases, child abuse cases, and bride kidnapping.
Stockholm syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome)

That is clearly what is happening in this film, by the end I would not be surprised if she put that japanese naval flag tatooed on her face.

This film is pure garbage - does not represent anything non bias, looks trash, is trash, pathetic attempt at an arguement.

Christov
01-26-2007, 05:56 AM
Amazing film!

Considering the time this film was made, it is like a Hollywood production! As far as I know it was only one – Krastyo Asenov, who spoke some French, but in that film there and so many with fluent English. Even Christo Tchernopeev seems to make no dialect exception. What should I say – as always the art is different than the reality.

The end of the movie brings one more surprise - “KRAJ”. Really amazing!

Istor
01-26-2007, 04:14 PM
There was a Greek film about Macedonian struggle. A really great film, with long silence moments that loud Macedonians' Greekness. I don't remember title or director. The Kastoria market and region was the land of the film. Does anyone know anything?

Gligorof: we are just SlavoSkopians.

Komitadji
01-26-2007, 04:20 PM
There was a Greek film about Macedonian struggle. A really great film, with long silence moments that loud Macedonians' Greekness. I don't remember title or director. The Kastoria market and region was the land of the film. Does anyone know anything?

Ofcourse I know it..

I've been looking for the movie for 2 years.

The Movie is called "Pavlos Melas" and is directed by Filippos Fylaktos in 1973.

http://www.italiansoundtracks.com/images/400/greekpavlosmelas.gif


Here is some information on the film:
Pavlos melas (1973) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070520/)

And here is the soundtrack:
Soundtracks from other Countries >> English Soundtracks >> Pavlos Melas (http://www.italiansoundtracks.com/soundtracks/english/greekpavlosmelas.html)

Istor
01-26-2007, 04:23 PM
No, I don't refer to that film. The film I am talking about was more recent and had NO reference to Pavlos.

Gligorof: we are just SlavoSkopians