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admin
12-09-2005, 04:34 PM
http://faq.macedonia.org/images/olympia.jpg
Olympia,
mother of Alexander the Great

Golden medal, Albukir treasure
Archaeologic Museum, Salonika, Greece


http://www.virtuality.gr/macedonia/figure8.jpg

Depiction of Olympias, wife of Philip II. Archeological Museum, Thessaloniki, GREECE.

admin
12-09-2005, 04:35 PM
http://faq.macedonia.org/images/alex2.jpg
Marble head of Alexander (http://faq.macedonia.org/history/alexander.the.great.html)
Acropolis Museum
Athens, Greece

admin
12-09-2005, 04:37 PM
http://www.virtuality.gr/macedonia/figure1.jpg
Representation of the head of Hercules, 350-325 B.C., Archeological Museum, Thessaloniki, GREECE

admin
12-09-2005, 04:38 PM
http://www.virtuality.gr/macedonia/figure4.jpg


Statuette of young man on horseback, Macedonia. 4th cent. B.C. Archeological Museum, Pella, Greece.

admin
12-09-2005, 04:40 PM
http://www.virtuality.gr/macedonia/figure7.jpg

The large, gold sarcophagus found in the main chamber of `Philip's tomb', Vergina, GREECE.

admin
12-09-2005, 04:43 PM
http://www.macedonian-heritage.gr/HellenicMacedonia/en/gallery.html


Very detailed Artifacts from Macedonia.

akritas
12-09-2005, 06:05 PM
agree with you.
My favorite page is the one with inscriptions.

I want also to add the letter of the Alexander III into the Chians concerning the return of the exiles
http://www.csad.ox.ac.uk/Chios/Tod192.jpg

WannabTrueMacedonian
12-14-2005, 02:52 AM
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9847/167qh.gif (http://imageshack.us)


http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6355/1200vt.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Pre - Vedic grave monument with inscription in ancient Macedonian writing
and in an ancient Macedonian tongue: “KRE[T SE SI U L’T S’L S IQU”
("KRESHT SE SI U L'T S'L S ILJU") meaning
“GLITTER IN YOUR FLIGHT ONLY WITH THE SUN”. Ilina Gora, Upper Shrine, Osinchani, near Skopje (7000 - 6000 B.C.).

admin
12-15-2005, 09:58 PM
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9847/167qh.gif (http://imageshack.us)


http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6355/1200vt.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Pre - Vedic grave monument with inscription in ancient Macedonian writing
and in an ancient Macedonian tongue: “KRE[T SE SI U L’T S’L S IQU”
("KRESHT SE SI U L'T S'L S ILJU") meaning
“GLITTER IN YOUR FLIGHT ONLY WITH THE SUN”. Ilina Gora, Upper Shrine, Osinchani, near Skopje (7000 - 6000 B.C.).


where did you find that information? can you show us an "unbiased" source ie non Fyromian site/author?

akritas
12-16-2005, 01:14 PM
adm
the WannaTrueMacedonian had took his info from the pseudo proffessor Vasi; Ilyov
http://www.unet.com.mk/ancient-macedonians/

also related info as about this professor was given by Orphic_Hymn in

http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=156

Spartan
12-16-2005, 06:21 PM
Very interesting how he post info to "prove" the ancient Macedonians spoke another language that has to do with the Phrygians/Brygians. Those were people who lived in the Eastern part of Ancient Macedonia and who were kicked out by the Macedonians.

So the language actually has NOTHING to do with the Macedonians.

PhiliptheUniterchaeronea
12-19-2005, 01:00 AM
Very interesting how he post info to "prove" the ancient Macedonians spoke another language that has to do with the Phrygians/Brygians. Those were people who lived in the Eastern part of Ancient Macedonia and who were kicked out by the Macedonians.

So the language actually has NOTHING to do with the Macedonians.

Remember what I said. SOme of the worst lies ever told have some truth to them. It appears this may be a case of it.

Ptolemy
12-21-2005, 01:10 PM
Tomb of Philip II (Vergina - Archaeological museum)
Hunting

http://www.utexas.edu/courses/classicalarch/images3/verginaphilshuntptg.jpg

Detail of horseman

http://www.utexas.edu/courses/classicalarch/images3/verginaphilshorseman.jpg

The figure on the left is thought of representing Alexander

http://www.utexas.edu/courses/classicalarch/images3/verginaphilsalex.jpg

Ptolemy
12-21-2005, 01:25 PM
Small sarcophagus with gold larnax inside

http://www.utexas.edu/courses/classicalarch/images3/verginaphilssarclarnax.jpg

Inside Larnax

http://www.utexas.edu/courses/classicalarch/images3/verginaphilslarnax.jpg

Bronze figurine, Arch. Museum Florence - Alexander and bucephalas

http://www.hackneys.com/alex_web/graphics/alx_tamt.gif

Ptolemy
12-21-2005, 01:27 PM
Alexander being lowered underwater in a glass barrel to explore the wonders of the deep. The Old French Prose Alexander Romance manuscript, Rouen, 1445

http://www.hackneys.com/alex_web/graphics/alxwatr.jpg

Ptolemy
12-21-2005, 01:32 PM
This bust is known as the Azara Herm, Louvre Museum

http://www.livius.org/aj-al/alexander/alexander_azara_louvre_3_s.JPG

http://www.livius.org/aj-al/alexander/alexander_azara_louvre_1_s.JPG

Ptolemy
12-25-2005, 03:46 PM
http://alexander.macedonia.culture.gr/2/21/211/21116/21116ek/00/timi.jpg

Inscription in honor of Alexander (Thessaloniki)

admin
12-27-2005, 05:19 PM
Amazing stuff Perseas!

Thank you for these posts...

akritas
01-12-2006, 01:56 PM
A great source that have many inscriptions from the Macedonia from Ohio University.
You can find tablets-inscriptions from 3nd B.C. until 2nd A.D.

http://omega.cohums.ohio-state.edu/epigraphy/cormack.html



Below a ancient tablet from Vergina (Aigeai), 3nd B.C.


http://dmc.ohiolink.edu/MDS/Olink-MDS1/Olink-MDS1_dir_107/Cormack_ABSA_39_n535413.tif.1085426008-27244-883-938961-969-1983012051?cell=600&qlt=90&cvt=jpeg

nsminc
01-18-2006, 11:15 PM
Guys if this isn't the right place to post this please put it somewhere else.



The second Mir Zakah deposit brought to light an unprecedented number of new coins - including a tetradrachm of Attic weight of Menander I with unknown types and a legend arrangement. This coin has to the right the diademed bust of the king, wearing a crested helmet and is seen from the back thrusting a spear with his raised right hand, and to the left on the reverse Athena Alkidemos and a Greek legend in semi-circular form. The most sensational numismatic discovery in the second Mir Zakah deposit was the coin of Nasten, a hitherto unknown Iranian ruler in India. The Greek legend reads: Nastenes/ Xatrannou. So this coin was probably issued by a ruler named Nasten, son of Xatran. Presumably, Nasten is not a Greek but an Iranian, most probably a Bactrian Iranian.



Almost all the pre-Islamic archaeological sites have been looted and destroyed in clandestine digging over the past 12 years. The Buddhist pillar Minar-e-Chakari, also called the Alexander pillar, dating back to the first century A.D., tumbled to the ground in March 1998 following a rocket attack.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7825/bamiyan1he.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The Buddhist monastery and stupa of Tep Shotor at Hadda, close to Jalalabad, was excavated by Afghan archaeologists. It was also extensively excavated by the French archaeological delegation to Afghanistan under Jules Barthoux. It has been pillaged and looted now. The monastic complex is situated halfway along the road from Kabul to Kandahar. This site had the ruins of the ancient town as well as a number of Buddhist stupas and caves. Among the remains atop the broad plateau are such Buddhist temples sites as Tapa-Kalan, Tapa-i-Kafariha, Bagh-gai, Chakhil-i-Gundi, deh-Ghundi and Gar-Nao.

At the ruins of Tapa-i-Shator outside the northern edge of this plateau, a large and well-preserved monastic complex was excavated between 1974 and 1979 by Prof. Zemaryalai Tarzi, who was then the Director-General of Archaeology and Conservation in Afghanistan. He and his team were able to unearth a beautiful stupa complex with stucco figures, dating from the second century A.D., depicting the Naga king in the Fish Porch and a realistic figure of Heracles. Looters systematically destroyed the huge statues that could not be removed, while the smaller ones were taken to the bazaars in Pakistan.

THE ancient site of Ai Khanoum was for the past 10 years the target of systematically planned illicit digs. This is little less than tragic for our contemporary understanding of ancient cultural interactions. One of the most significant contributions towards an understanding of Greek presence in Bactria was made through the Ai Khanoum excavations led by French archaeologists under Prof. P. Bernard.

The ruins of Ai Khanoum stand on the left bank of the Oxus river at its meeting point with its tributary, the Kokcha. This triangular area at the confluence of the Oxus and the Kokcha was a strategic choice the Greeks made. It was a well-placed military outpost to control the eastern territories of ancient Bactria. The topography of the site, with a natural acropolis about 60 m higher than the surrounding areas and protected by the two rivers from the west and the south, made it an ideal choice for the Greek city planners. The residential quarters and public buildings - namely the gymnasium, the temple, the fortifications, the royal palace and the administrative apparatus - were built in the lower part of the site, which was less exposed to the winds than the acropolis.

The discoveries made at Ai Khanoum by the French archaeologists demonstrate how the Greek artists of Ai Khanoum not only remained attached to the Greek traditions but also in some ways perpetuated a classical style. For example, the mosaic floor of the palace bathroom displaying dolphins, sea horses and sea monsters was made by setting a field of dark red pebbles, instead of the square-cut stones of the later style.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5435/aikhanoum43fu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4523/aikhanoum54aq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

KEYSTONE/GAMMA
Some of the finds in Hadda made by the French archaeological team led by Barthoux in 1929:(Left) Part of the high relief depicting the life of the Buddha; (Right)The statue of a divinity throwing flowers on the Buddha.



This remarkable city, which bore the distinctive imprint of cultural currents from the days of Greek civilisational glory, does not exist anymore. Prospectors for treasure seem to have used the metal detectors originally brought into the country to detect landmines, for quite another purpose. Some photographs taken by the Japanese Professor Hin Ichi Ono show the lunar-like surface of the city. The lower city is completely devastated. The place where once the big temple stood is today a crater. Some of the Corinthian and Doric capitals unearthed by the French archaeologists were taken away, and they now serve as the base for the columns in a tcha-khan, or a tea house.

Hundreds of ivory pieces, jewellery, intaglios, plaster medallions and bronze items from Ai Khanoum have reached Pakistani bazaars and private collections. A gold bracelet in the form of a snake was found in Ai Khanoum. The treatment of the head of the snake, probably that of a cobra, is realistic and reflects the workmanship of a Greek artist. Many ivory items were unearthed in the legal excavations at Ai Khanoum, especially in the palace treasury, which have been documented by Paul Bernard and Claude Rapin. To this list, illegal excavations have probably added the following items: hairpins, votive sculptures and perhaps part of a sword case.

Pieces of gold and silver jewellery similar to the ones found in the legal excavations have reached the market. They comprise rings, bracelets, pendants and earrings. Hundreds of cornelian, agate and cut stones (similar to the ones already published by Claude Rapin) were seen in the bazaars. All these items add to the Greek and Graeco-Oriental art already attested in Ai Khanoum. Three items that can certainly be considered as new evidence for the Greek contribution to the art and culture of Bactria and India were found in recent years in Ai Khanoum: a bronze statuette of Heracles, an ivory plaque depicting a seated Aphrodite and a faience head of a Graeco-Bactrian king.

The bronze statuette of Heracles has a height of 21 centimetres, with the pedestal. The figure is solid cast, with a fully fashioned back. It represents a naked, beardless, young Heracles, standing holding in his left hand a lion's skin, and his right hand resting on a club. He wears a broad-leaved wreath. His left knee is slightly bent, leaving the weight of the body on the right leg. It is not at all surprising to find so many images of Heracles in Ai Khanum, because, as revealed by an inscription found in situ, the gymnasium of this Greek city was dedicated to this divinity.

The ivory plaque depicting Aphrodite has a diameter of 8.3 cm. It was also unearthed in Khanoum in 1999. It was found in pieces and was restored in London. The whole scene is composed of three figures: Aphrodite in the middle, a winged female figure to the left and Eros to the right. Aphrodite is represented semi-nude, seated on a pile of rocks, the left hand resting on a rock while the other hand is on her right thigh. Her body is in three-quarter view, but her legs are almost in profile. She wears a himation loosely draped around the lower part of her body, leaving the torso bare. The winged female figure, wearing a sleeved chiton, stands on a capital, holding what is probably a mirror box. At the extreme left of the plaque, winged Eros stands on the same pile of rocks on which Aphrodite is seated. His right arm is raised while the other is making a gesture as if to unveil the himation of the goddess from the back.

The faience head of the Graeco-Bactrian king was found in June 1998 in unrecorded circumstances. It certainly belongs to an acrolithic statue. On close examination, it becomes obvious that the horizontally cut border at the bottom of the head was meant to fit into a wooden structure. So the rest of the body would have been of wood. The fragments of the cult statue found in the cellar of the main temple of Ai Khanoum, and the faience head, are the only examples of acroliths that have so far been found in Bactria.

These discoveries add much to our knowledge of the political and economic history of Bactria and India from the conquest of Alexander the Great, until the end of the Kushan period. The reconstruction of the history of the Greeks and their nomadic successors in Bactria and India depends mainly on numismatic evidence. The other sources - ancient texts and inscriptions and various data obtained in archaeological excavations - are, though important, secondary compared to the vast and rich information conveyed by coins. Because of the scarcity of ancient texts and of available archaeological data, numismatic evidence constitutes the main source for the reconstruction of the history of the Greeks and their successors in Bactria and India.

But the exciting possibilities offered by this, as also the second deposit of Mir Zakah, have now been irretrievably lost. According to some reliable sources, two and half tonnes of coins of the second Mir Zakah deposit have been taken to Switzerland for sale. If organisations such as UNESCO do not take the initiative, all the coins may one day go into the melting pot.

The world owes its most profound sympathies to the Afghan people, who were chased from one frontier to another and who suffered the vicissitudes of civil war, famine and drought. They were the hapless victims of political ideologies that reduce the human condition to a position subordinate to international economic interests. But in promoting the cynical game of realpolitik in Afghanistan, humankind itself has lost a part of its collective cultural heritage - a loss for which the world bears collective responsibility.

Osmund Bopearachchi is Director of Research, Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique, Paris.

http://www.flonnet.com/fl1906/19060660.htm

Guys I don't know how that frowning smiley got in there

PhiliptheUniterchaeronea
01-19-2006, 01:44 AM
Your research is unbelievable with this stuff. I remember how strong your posts on Macedonia were on GS. You are an animal NSMINC. Keep up the great work.

akritas
01-19-2006, 12:51 PM
I agree with the PhiliptheUniterhaeoronia.
Great job nsminc :thumbs:
And guys just stay in the thread. :) Akous Big Takis:)

Tsontos
02-02-2006, 06:35 AM
Anyone ever heard a blockhead claim Solun is the real name for Thessaloniki which is a word we made up in 1913? B)

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/685/bronzecoinofthessalonike3qb.jpg

Tsontos
02-02-2006, 06:36 AM
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/223/10zz.jpg

Tetradrachm of the First 'Meris'

PhiliptheUniterchaeronea
02-02-2006, 10:25 PM
Bravo Mikre!

slasa
08-05-2006, 01:41 PM
hi Admin

awesome research

Amarantos
10-19-2007, 09:53 AM
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5935/dsc00869ua9.jpg

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2563/dsc00872fh7.jpg

Ivory table and detail, Pella museum, Macedonia, Greece.
Note the Hellenic Key (meander) motif, typical of ancient Greek art.

nsminc
10-28-2007, 08:38 PM
Guys if this was posted somewhere else I apologize


If Phillip spoke in an ancient slavic tongue why didn't he put it on his coins?

Macedonian Kingdom, Philip II, 359 - 336 B.C.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6527/phil1mw7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Philip II expanded the size and influence of the Macedonian Kingdom, but is perhaps best known as the father of Alexander the Great. He personally selected the design of his coins.

21617. Silver tetradrachm, SNG Cop 559, Le Rider pl 46, 19, choice EF, 14.423g, 24.2mm, 315o, Amphipolis mint, c. 323 - 316 B.C.; obverse laureate head of Zeus right; reverse FILIPPOU, naked youth on horse pacing right on horseback holding palm, acrostolion below, G and pellet below foreleg; lustrous, bold strike; $1750.00 (€1235.50)


Macedonia Greek Coins (http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=585&pos=0)

dragofly
11-04-2007, 06:43 AM
Well done everybody, it's a fantastic thread full of invaluable information and amazing photo collection. :clapping::clapping::clapping:

Bardas
02-19-2008, 07:25 AM
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