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akritas
11-12-2006, 05:59 AM
VATICAN CITY: Pope Benedict XVI held a private audience Friday with Cypriot President Tassos Papadopoulos, who gave the pontiff an album of photographs of destroyed churches in northern Cyprus under the Turkish occupation.

After Benedict welcomed the Cypriot at the entrance to his library in the Apostolic Palace, the president showed the leather-bound album to the pontiff, who looked upset as he leafed through the pages. Some the pictures showed churches reduced to rubble, while others had been converted to restaurants, shops or other secular uses.

"Such destruction ... incredible," Benedict uttered, according to pool reporters who covered the greeting before the pontiff and the president began their private talks.

A Vatican statement singled out "with satisfaction" that Catholics on the island enjoy religious freedom. The Greek Cypriot population of Cyprus is largely Orthodox.

"The pope was very upset and expressed feelings of deep concern," Papadopoulos later said of Benedict's reaction to the photographs. "We all know his concern and deep interest in the preservation of churches and freedom of religion."

In Northern Cyprus, Ahmet Okan, adviser to Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat on political and cultural issues, said that while there were destroyed and converted churches on the Turkish side there were also several destroyed Ottoman Turkish buildings in the south. In a telephone conversation with The Associated Press, he contended that Turkish Cypriot calls for joint projects to restore Christian and Ottoman buildings were constantly being rebuffed by the Greek Cypriots.

Turkish Cypriots were working toward restoring some of the churches but had limited resources to do it, Okan said.

After years of ethnic violence, Cyprus was partitioned in 1974 when the Turkish army invaded the northern third of the island after a coup by Greek Cypriots who supported union with Greece. Turkey keeps some 40,000 troops on Cyprus and supports the northern Turkish Cypriot breakaway state.

Cyprus, a Mediterranean island, joined the European Union in 2004.

The Vatican said that the pontiff and the Cypriot president "dwelled above all on topics dealing with the integration of the (European) continent and dialogue between cultures and religions which favors both sides getting closer."

The Vatican statement did not mention any particular cultures or religions in the context of integration.

Speaking to reporters in Rome, Papadopoulos said the talks did not address the pope's Nov. 28-Dec. 1 trip to Turkey or the predominantly Muslim country's efforts to gain EU membership.

Touching on the problems of the divided island, the pope "listened to our views and, of course, as it was expected, His Holiness gave me his advice based on the need for reconciliation of disputes," Papadopoulos told reporters.

Earlier in the week, Papadopoulos said that Turkey risked creating a rift with the European Union unless it lifted a trade embargo on Cyprus.

The EU says that Turkey, which is officially secular and predominantly Muslim, must improve democratic rights and normalize ties with Cyprus to avoid stalling accession talks with the 25-nation bloc.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/10/europe/EU_GEN_Vatican_Cyprus.php (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/10/europe/EU_GEN_Vatican_Cyprus.php)

Tsontos
11-12-2006, 05:52 PM
this pope seems to be a bit of a Greek sympathiser. the popes of old would be spinning in their graves..

Slayer
11-13-2006, 12:49 AM
This pope is continuing on from what the last Pope had started. They have aplogised for the sacking of Constantinople and they claim to want to heal the rift after the schism 1000 years ago.

Do you guys think this is a good thing for the Orthodox or a deceptive ploy by the Catholics to try control our flock?

edessa
11-14-2006, 01:38 AM
the only thing we, as greek orthodox need to be afraid of is our own people. go to a church and see how many people under 30 u will find there, its a very disturbing image

Slayer
11-14-2006, 08:03 PM
well if you are like me and only go at Easter then you to would be ignorant of how many go to a normal service, but i guess it wouldn't be many.

edessa
11-14-2006, 09:30 PM
nope, its not

PhiliptheUniterchaeronea
11-14-2006, 11:53 PM
I kind of like this pitbull of a Pope. Seems to see things better in ways. We'll see in the future.

Lets stick together, after all, both are Chalcedon Churches. We should be sticking together. No we do not become Roman, we should just be closer than we are.

Slayer
11-15-2006, 08:10 PM
I kind of like this pitbull of a Pope. Seems to see things better in ways. We'll see in the future.

Lets stick together, after all, both are Chalcedon Churches. We should be sticking together. No we do not become Roman, we should just be closer than we are.

Like a priveledged partnership many in the EU want to give the Turks ;)

pankration
11-16-2006, 12:58 AM
At the pope's funeral the Greek Orthodox Patriarch was the first to go by the coffin. Regardless of Catholic agendas, the Orthodox Church is considered first among equals.

PhiliptheUniterchaeronea
02-11-2007, 12:26 AM
Hmmm... Let us look at history and politcs as reality instead as hogwash. What a reality?! Pankration, the sooner you get into politics, the better. The only thin I will have to do is make you realize is my generation became Anglo-Hellenic. Hey, what two other cultures ever contributed more than perhapsthe Italians? At least I know you get it.