akritas
09-16-2006, 06:08 AM
I hear the Slavonic origin Macedonians the continious boring claim that they are descents from the ancient Macedonians.
Three from the most favour writers that used from the Slavonic origin Macedonians are the
-Karakasidou
-Danforth
-Borza
All the above writers were specefic as about the origin of the today Slavonic origin Macedonians.Are Slavs that came in the Balkans 800 years after the kingship of the ancient Macedonians
Here some quote from them:
Borza in "Macedonian Rendux"
The Macedonian kingdom was absorbed into the Roman Empire, never to
recover its independence. During medieval and modem times, Macedonia was known as a Balkan region inhabited by ethnic Greeks, Albanians, Vlachs, Serbs, Bulgarians, Jews, and Turks
Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and Macedonians, cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom.
On the other hand, the Macedonians are a newly emergent people in search of a past to help legitimize their precarious present as they attempt to establish their singular identity in a Slavic world dominated historically by Serbs and Bulgarians.
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Loring Danforth in his known book mention clearly
"the history of the construction of a macedonian national identity does not begin with alexander the great in the fourth century b.c. or with saints cyril and methodius in the ninth century a.d., as Macedonian nationalist historians often claim. nor does it begin with tito and the establishment of the people's republic of macedonia in 1944 as greek nationalist historians would have us believe.
It begins in the nineteenth century with the first expressions of macedonian ethnic nationalism on the part of a small number of intellectuals in places like thessaloniki, belgrade, sophia, and st.petersburg. this period marks the beginning of the process of "imagining" a macedonian national community, the beginning of the construction of a macedonian national identity and culture"
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Karakasidou in Fields of Wheat, Hills of Blood mention
However the polemics round Macedonia acquired new critical dimensions afterwards the establishment of Yugoslavian Socialist Republic of Macedonia, to1944. The Yugoslavian Macedonians and their successors of FYROM undertaken their own construction of nation, manufacturing separate fables of collective origin and claims from Great Alexandros (Apostolski et al 1969, Kolisevski 1959)
In the beginning of 20th century, Greece and Bulgaria colided for the region of Macedonia. Today, in the threshold 21th century the axis of competition was shifted with the constitution of FYROM in independent government owned entity, which includes Slavs, Albanians, Muslim Turks and Rom
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So dear Slavonic origin inhibants of the Macedonia you are just a people that came in the Balkans at the 6th century and your supposing connection is just a fabrication of your new founding State.
Or
and the Borza,Danforth and Karakasidou are part of the Greek propagnda as you learned dear Slavonic origin inhibants of the Macedonia?
Cheers:)
Three from the most favour writers that used from the Slavonic origin Macedonians are the
-Karakasidou
-Danforth
-Borza
All the above writers were specefic as about the origin of the today Slavonic origin Macedonians.Are Slavs that came in the Balkans 800 years after the kingship of the ancient Macedonians
Here some quote from them:
Borza in "Macedonian Rendux"
The Macedonian kingdom was absorbed into the Roman Empire, never to
recover its independence. During medieval and modem times, Macedonia was known as a Balkan region inhabited by ethnic Greeks, Albanians, Vlachs, Serbs, Bulgarians, Jews, and Turks
Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and Macedonians, cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom.
On the other hand, the Macedonians are a newly emergent people in search of a past to help legitimize their precarious present as they attempt to establish their singular identity in a Slavic world dominated historically by Serbs and Bulgarians.
================================================== ================================================== ==================
Loring Danforth in his known book mention clearly
"the history of the construction of a macedonian national identity does not begin with alexander the great in the fourth century b.c. or with saints cyril and methodius in the ninth century a.d., as Macedonian nationalist historians often claim. nor does it begin with tito and the establishment of the people's republic of macedonia in 1944 as greek nationalist historians would have us believe.
It begins in the nineteenth century with the first expressions of macedonian ethnic nationalism on the part of a small number of intellectuals in places like thessaloniki, belgrade, sophia, and st.petersburg. this period marks the beginning of the process of "imagining" a macedonian national community, the beginning of the construction of a macedonian national identity and culture"
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Karakasidou in Fields of Wheat, Hills of Blood mention
However the polemics round Macedonia acquired new critical dimensions afterwards the establishment of Yugoslavian Socialist Republic of Macedonia, to1944. The Yugoslavian Macedonians and their successors of FYROM undertaken their own construction of nation, manufacturing separate fables of collective origin and claims from Great Alexandros (Apostolski et al 1969, Kolisevski 1959)
In the beginning of 20th century, Greece and Bulgaria colided for the region of Macedonia. Today, in the threshold 21th century the axis of competition was shifted with the constitution of FYROM in independent government owned entity, which includes Slavs, Albanians, Muslim Turks and Rom
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So dear Slavonic origin inhibants of the Macedonia you are just a people that came in the Balkans at the 6th century and your supposing connection is just a fabrication of your new founding State.
Or
and the Borza,Danforth and Karakasidou are part of the Greek propagnda as you learned dear Slavonic origin inhibants of the Macedonia?
Cheers:)