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Old 07-31-2006, 01:04 PM
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Research concerning regions and regionalism in Europe has recently become very popular. It is quite often underlined in the literature that European States are moving towards a Europe of the Regions. However, there are still insistent voices that Europe of the Regions is a phrase most commonly reserved for romantics and nationalists separatist who seek the dissolution of the states in favour of smaller regional identities.

Recently the Skopjan organization ,Rainbow affiliated in the known from the Europeans organization that call as

European Free Alliance

The EFA is the umbrella of all the regional and autonomist parties in the E.U. These people would love to see a Europe full of minorities and cultures.
However, there are still insistent voices that Europe of the Regions is a phrase most commonly reserved for romantics and nationalists separatist who seek the dissolution of the states in favour of smaller regional identities like EFA organization.

As a consequence of Europeanisation, the regions have gained a more effective level of governance. This process was also encouraged by the European Commission, which has an institutional interest to develop a new level of legitimate government that bypasses the level of member states in some areas of activity. The example served here is that some nationalist parties, such as those in the Basque country and in Scotland, seek independent membership in the EU, and a scenario whereby member states would permit such a course of events would hardly be imaginable, either individually or collectively

Furthermore, it is stressed that the trend is correlated with a fundamental principle of European law, that is to say, with the principle of subsidiary . This leads to various forms of the institutionalisation of regionalism in the European Union and in the Member States as well.

Regionalism has its roots in the conservative and traditionalist reaction to the creation of the modern liberal nation-state. At the beginning of the European

Ironically the regionalism don't have to go very far away to find such a place.
What place?

The Balkans of course.

Recently EFA tried to find the Macedonian Culture in the Macedonia Region Greece. What was the result? Really I don’t know. But I know for sure that these kind of movements are known , predictable and of course easy to find solutions.Greece respect the minorities in its lands.But fight any voice of irredentism specially those that came from centers outside not only from Greece but the all Europe.

Skopjan Diaspora (propaganda) must be inform more well as about the European circumstances.
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At the EFA booklet you can see who are the members of this organzation


In the page 18 you can see the Rainbow .
250 members only!!!!!!


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Old 08-12-2006, 01:10 AM
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This is excellent.


Only 250.... oh those 1 million supressed Skopjans eh....
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Old 12-08-2006, 04:31 PM
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As you know the maknews owner, the known Skopjan Lubi Uzunovski is the web designer of many FYROMian nationalistic web sides. With the Lyngos help I just found that the florina.org is belong to Lubi Uzunovski.

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http://samspade.org/whois/www.florina.org
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Ofcourse we all knew it was something like this going on, now we have the proof....


mpravo akritas.
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so much for an organisation against nationalistic chauvansim
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Bravo Akrita,great find.
I'm wondering, isn't it all this anti-constitutional,since here(the florina.org ) we are not talking about a simple site where everyone writes what he wants,but of the official voice of a political party.It is revealed that a foreigner, NOT a Greek citizen ,is propagandazing opinions ,deceiting public opinion in the whole world,against the Hellenic State!Isn't this thing procecutable?Keep the page in your archieve,since in the future it's definite that the admin's name of florina. org ,will change.
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As you know the maknews owner, the known Skopjan Lubi Uzunovski is the web designer of many FYROMian nationalistic web sides. With the Lyngos help I just found that the florina.org is belong to Lubi Uzunovski.

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Whois 86.43.70.58
This is an amazing find. Prooves us right in our claim that maknews and stefov's hand goes all the way to Voskopoulos and the other mongrols, that pary on the deisres and pockets of the Makedontsi diaspora!!. Great find akrita, we should place this right at the front of the forums so all the victims of maknews see the truth!
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Some usefull informations as about the election past of the Unranio Toxo.
  1. In the national elections of 1993 we have the first appearance of the Slavmacedonians nationalists. They showed up with the name of MA.KI.VE.=Makedoniki Kinisi Valkanikis Evimerias. They took 367 votes.
  2. In 1994 at th eurolections we have the rename of the MAKIVE with the known Uranio Toxo=Rainbow. They took 7.263 votes. In the known prefectures got in Florina:2268(6%), Pella 1558(1,48%) and in Kastoria 301.
  3. In the national elections of 1996 , rainbow coloborated with the OKKE(extreme communists) and they took 3.485 votes

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Look what the Skops have to say about 1994


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The Macedonian Movement for Balkan Prosperity (MMBP) was formed in 1989 in Subotsko (Greek name - Aridea), Aegean Macedonia.

The MMBP, with the help of the Rainbow Party, registered a political party and took part in the 1994 elections for the European Parliament. This represented the first time that the ethnic Macedonians living in Greece had a voice in Greek elections. The MMBP registered 23 ethnic Macedonian candidates to the electoral officials in Greece. Not surprisingly, the Greek government took all necessary steps in oder to hinder this party. The following is a quote from the U.S. Department of State.

"The Supreme Court invalidated the list of Rainbow Coalition candidates but then reversed its decision two weeks before the election. Rainbow candidates had little time to campaign officially, and were not allowed to take part in government-sponsored television and radio programs whichincluded all other candidates. In addition, some polling stations did not receive lists needed for supporters to vote for Rainbow candidates." 5

"In the June 1994 Euroelections, a Rainbow list was presented by MMBP, in cooperation with the Rainbow group of the European Parliament (which included the minority and regionalist MEP's between 1989-1994). The list was immediately strongly attacked and slandered by the state news agency and some media; then the country's Supreme Court invalidated its candidacy, on the grounds that it had not declared it was not aiming at overthrowing the regime, a declaration not used since 1974. Following the outcry, the Rainbow and two other leftist lists which were initially excluded were reinstated. The Rainbow list was the only one not to get any air time on state television during the campaign and was not able to distribute ballots in most Southern Greek electoral districts; also, on election day, GHM and MRG-Greece received reliable information that the Rainbow ballot was not given to the voters in many Greater Athens voting places. Despite all those problems, Rainbow received 7,263 votes or 0.1% of the total electorate." 6
Despite the efforts of the Greek government and the climate of fear felt by the Macedonians in expressing their identity, the MMBP and Rainbow Party received a total of 7,263 votes. According to the members of this party, there were many voting irregularities including booths that never opened, voters lists that went missing the day of the election in areas withstrong support for the party, and "improperly marked" ballots being discounted. Independent observers believe that the real numbers should have been close to 40,000 votes.7

Kosta Gotsis, a member of the Macedonian Movement for Balkan Prosperity, told the Human Rights Watch/Helsinki fact-finding mission in 1994:

"We want all the rights of people who have their own identity and culture, according to CSCE declarations, we are entitled to these rights. One of the most important of these is the right to have our children educated in their mother tongue. It's very important to save the language. We don't care whether all the subjects are taught in Macedonian or there is just one hour a day of instruction in Macedonian-we don't want a utopia. If we are allowed to establish private schools that teach in Macedonian, that's okay. If the Greek government provides one or two hours of instruction in Macedonian, that's okay."

"Right now we can't get permission to teach a class in Macedonian, because, according to the Greek government, the language doesn't exist. To set up a school teaching a foreign language, you need a license and a certificate. But since the government says the Macedonian language doesn't exist, they won't give anyone a license to teach it."

ti vlakies.... and btw, what do they have to say about all the elections since then? What are their excuses and where are the votes??
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