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Contemporary Greek use of the name Macedonia - the most ill conceived skopjian lie

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Old 02-22-2006, 04:17 PM
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Default Contemporary Greek use of the name Macedonia - the most ill conceived skopjian lie



We've all heard the Skopjian claim that "Greece and Greeks banned or had an aversion to the name Macedonia until 1988 when we first used the name Macedonia to describe what had previously been known as Northern Greece since we stole Macedonia from the Macedonians in 1913". Others are not THAT stupid and claim we used it beofre 1988 but still claim we had an aversion and "rarely".

Can anyone supply me with a date the 3 districts of Macedonia(modern Greece) were created and when was the name "Macedonia" originally used by the Greek government?
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Local Trachinian men made the comment "that when the Persians finally got around to firing off their arrows there would be so many of them that they would block out the sun."

The Spartan, Dienekes said "What our friend from Trachis says is good news, for if the Medes hide the sun then we shall be fighting in the shade."

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Old 02-22-2006, 04:33 PM
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Can anyone supply me with a date the 3 districts of Macedonia(modern Greece) were created and when was the name "Macedonia" originally used by the Greek government??
The districts (West, East, Central) of Macedonia ,as is known today, established in 1988. This is the common FYROM propaganda as about the date. In 1991(I think) the East Macedonian unified with Thrace.
Hellenic State named as Macedonia district at 1914, after the the Treaty of Bucharest, which ended the Balkan War of 1912-13. Under Ottoman rule (1450-1912) there was no administrative district called Macedonia, the region was divided up into sanjaks and vilayets(Andianople, Thessaloniki and Monastirion).
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Old 02-22-2006, 05:15 PM
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With the First Balkan War of the Balkan states against the Turks in 1912, when the Greek army liberated Thessaloniki, the Governorate General of Macedonia(ΓΕΝΙΚΗ ΔΙΟΙΚΗΣΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑΣ) was established immediately, with its headquarters in Thessaloniki. It was universally accepted that Greece had the right to do this and no one objected. Until 1944, no one ever conceived of the existence of any other Macedonia.
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Old 02-22-2006, 08:04 PM
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Euxaristo Palikaria!

Do you, by chance, have any non-Greek sources that support that info just in case they try to challenge it??
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Local Trachinian men made the comment "that when the Persians finally got around to firing off their arrows there would be so many of them that they would block out the sun."

The Spartan, Dienekes said "What our friend from Trachis says is good news, for if the Medes hide the sun then we shall be fighting in the shade."
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Euxaristo Palikaria!

Do you, by chance, have any non-Greek sources that support that info just in case they try to challenge it??

as far as the term "Governorate General of Macedonia" is concearned,i found this page,see number 32
http://gak.thess.sch.gr/Archsyl/eur.htm
Check it out
It's in greek,from the "general state archieves" site,still under construction.
Non-greek source still not found
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Old 02-23-2006, 11:26 PM
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Euxaristo Amarantos!

For this subject it doesn't really matter if its a Greek source. All I needed to prove is that the Greek government was using the name Macedonia since the Balkans Wars and possibly Earlier!
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The Spartan, Dienekes said "What our friend from Trachis says is good news, for if the Medes hide the sun then we shall be fighting in the shade."
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Spartan, if I'm not too late, this should help
Vilayet of Adrianople
... administrative unit (province) within the Ottoman Empire, covering presently Greek Eastern Macedonia and Thrace, and the European parts of Turkey.

Vilayet of Ioannina (Janina)
... administrative unit (province) within the Ottoman Empire, covering parts of presently Greek Epirus, southern parts of Albania.

Vilayet of the Islands
... administrative unit (province) within the Ottoman Empire, covering, since 1832, the islands in the eastern Aegaean except for Samos; population mainly Greek.

Vilayet of Monastir
... administrative unit (province) within the Ottoman Empire, covering western parts of presently Greek Macedonia (Aegaean Macedonia), western parts of the Republic of Macedonia (Vardar Macedonia).

Vilayet of Salonica
... administrative unit (province) within the Ottoman Empire, covering central parts of presently Greek Macedonia (Aegaean Macedonia), eastern parts of the Republic of Macedonia (Vardar Macedonia) and parts of SW Bulgaria (Pirin Macedonia).

Source totaly indipended http://www.zum.de/whkmla/histdic/bal...greeceper.html
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The name is
Governor-General of Macedonia or Geniki Dioikisi Makedonias
Kai apo skopiano site kateuthian sta moutra tou nitkov=bosnian

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1923: "In the course of conversation, Mr. Lambros [Governor General of Macedonia], actually said that the present was a good opportunity to get rid of the Bulgars [sic] who remained in this area and who had always been a source of trouble for Greece

http://www.gate.net/~mango/Rossos_British_FO.htm
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In early 1923 the Governor-General of Macedonia, Achilleas Lambros, conducted an ethnological survey of this region.(30) According to Lambros, the statistical data came (a) from the official Greek census of 1920, (b) from another census conducted at about the same time on behalf of the Foreign Ministry and (c) from information derived from various local officials.

This figure is also supported by an 1912 unofficial and unpublished census found in the papers of the first Greek Governor-General of Macedonia, Stefanos Dragoumis.(25)
(25.) Archeio Stefanou Dragoumi [Stefanos Dragoumis Papers], F.116.4., Governor-General of Thessaloniki to the Prime Minister, Thessaloniki, 4 November 1913, ref. 17210.


http://www.macedonian-heritage.gr/do...hailidis98.pdf
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Bravo Akritas.

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The Spartan, Dienekes said "What our friend from Trachis says is good news, for if the Medes hide the sun then we shall be fighting in the shade."
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This poster was made after our victory in the balkan wars




Colour lithograph depicting the New Greece [upon] the newly liberated lands, crowning the Greek armed forces, 1913, Athens, National Historical Museum.

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