Alexander I and the term Philhellene

[akritas]

As you know the FYROM propaganda try to present a quote of Herodotos when named the macedonian king Alexander A as Phillellene as not Greek.

We know that into the present this term mean:

lover of Greece or things Greek
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/d.../d0009930.html

and
One who admires Greece or the Greeks
http://www.bartleby.com/61/45/P0244500.html

The term phil means
One that loves or has a strong affinity or preference and Loving; having a strong affinity or preference
http://www.bartleby.com/61/42/P0244200.html

Let's what the adjective Philhellene was given to Alexander and the several forms of that:

Example 1
Xenophon, the Spartan Agesi laos general and leader as Philhellene : “It is a honour for a Greek to be Philhellene�
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin...Xen.+Ages.+7.1

Again, if it is honourable in one who is a Hellene to be a friend to the Hellenes , what other general has the world seen unwilling to take a city when he thought that it would be sacked, or who looked on victory in a war against Hellenesas a disaster?

Example 2
Plato wants the leaders of Greeks to be Philhellenes and not separatists

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin...t.+Rep.+5.470e

“And won't they be philhellenes, lovers of Hellenes, and will they not regard all Hellas as their own and not renounce their part in the holy places common to all Hellenes ?� “Most certainly.� “Will they not then regard any difference with Hellenes

I think plato give what was the meaning of the Phillelene in the ancient times.

[Ptolemy]

Greeks, however, we shall say, are still by nature the friends of Greeks when they act in this way

[Plato, Republic 5.470c]

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin...ut=;loc=5.470d

According to some, being friends of Greeks makes you a non-Greek.

[Tsontos]

whatever the case in modern english its clear what it meant in ancient Greek, whether the Macedonian or the Attic dialect

[pankration]

Always keep in mind that ancient use of words was different than current ones. Hellas was a collection of individual kingdoms in those days. A "philhellene" was a person deemed a friend of all the Greek city-states, something almost unheard of in those days of constant civil war. In fact, it was the highest honor one could earn as a ruler because the title denoted respect from all hellenes. Philip was recognized, in spite of Chaeronea, as a uniter and was honored as thus. Also note that the Persians, Romans, Egyptians, Carthaginians and others did business with and often maintained excellent relationships with certain Greek groups yet none of them was ever titled, "philhellene".

[Kuniska]

To twn Ellhnwn onoma pepoihken mhketi tou genous alla ths dianoias dokein einai kai mallon Ellhnas kaleisthai tou ths paideusews ths hmeteras h tous ths koinhs fusews metexontas. ISOKRATHS

[Istor]

Originally Posted by Kuniska

To twn Ellhnwn onoma pepoihken mhketi tou genous alla ths dianoias dokein einai kai mallon Ellhnas kaleisthai tou ths paideusews ths hmeteras h tous ths koinhs fusews metexontas. ISOKRATHS

Ôὸ ôῶÃ* ἙëëÞÃ*ùÃ* ὄÃ*ïìá ðåðïßçêåÃ* ìçêÃ�ôé ôïῦ ãÃ�Ã*ïõò ἀëëὰ ôῆò äéáÃ*ïßáò äïêåῖÃ* Ã¥ἶÃ*áé êáὶ ìᾶëëïÃ* ἝëëçÃ*áò êáëåῖóèáé ôïὺò ôῆò ðáéäåýóåùò ôῆò ἡìåôÃ�ñáò ἢ ôïὺò ôῆò êïéÃ*ῆò öýóåùò ìåôÃ�֕Ã*ôáò.

[Kuniska]

I am glad we agree with Isokratis, Istor. We are not Greeks though vre. We are Hellenes! I have a question. How come there is no option for Symbol among the fonts? In this way nobody should install Hellenic Windows or encode anything. Do you know who can make the change?

[Istor]

We are not Greeks though vre

We are Greeks, Hellenes, Yunan and we could be Macedonians if there was a big civilization to the North of Greece at the proper time to make this name an ethnic name for all Greeks just like what Persians did for Ionian and Romans did for Greek name.

Ston pinaka elenxou (control panel) xtypa topikes ry8miseis (Local settings) kai meta languages > details > add .....

[Kuniska]

ωωω καλά Το θέμα σηκώνει πολύ συζήτηση. Υπάρχει ενα πολύ καλό βιβλίο (δε θυμάμαι συγγραφέα) με τίτλο οι περιπέτειες του εθνικού ονόματος των Ελλήνων. Και οι Ρωμαίοι και οι Ανατολίτες ονόμασαν τους λαούς βάσει των φυλών που συνάντησαν στη γη τους όχι επειδή είχαν σπουδαίο πολιτισμό. Ούτως ή άλλως ο Ελληνικός πολιτισμός φέρει τα ίδια στοιχεία παρά το ιδιαίτερο χρώμα που του προσδίδει η κάθε περιοχή.
Που βρίσκεται ο πίνακας ελέγχου; Αν εννοείς γενικότερα στον υπολογιστή έχω Ελληνικά και συμπολ. Το προβλημά μου είναι οτι δεν υπάρχει εδώ ως επιλογή. Αν γράψω Ελληνικά όπως στην προκειμένη περίπτωση σε κάποιον υπολογιστή που δεν έχει εγκαταστήσει το Ελληνικο πληκτρολόγιο θα βλέπει παράξενα σύμβολα χωρίς νόημα κάτι σαν του Νικόλα ενα πράμα. Σε ευχαριστώ για τις οδηγίες όμως.

[Istor]

Ãéá Windows XP:

start > control panel > local settings > languages > Details > Select (or Settings) > Add > Language (Greek) + keyboard (Greek polytonic)

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