Propaganda from Official Fyromian sites

[akritas]

Hellenes in this thread we must seeking for official FYROMian web sides that has a aim the stealing of our Greek history.
I start with the FYROMian Embassy in UK.

http://www.macedonianembassy.org.uk/history.html

mention as about the supposing FYROMian history.
I start with the ancient Macedonian history.!!

Macedonia is a historical region that originates from the ancient period. The zenith of the Macedonian kingdom, its unity, independence and predominance – political, military and economic – reached its apogee in the 4

th century BC when the famous Philip II ( – 336 B.C.) and Alexander III(356 - 323 B.C.) ruled the prestigious Kingdom of Macedonia the Great.

As you see the Skopjans start clevearly to say for region but finally they finish with the usual quotes as about the ancient Macedonians rulers
More information in
http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...ir-reigns.html

After the dissolution of the Empire, the territory of Macedonia fell first under Roman and later under Byzantine rule. In the course of several centuries, the ancient Macedonians mixed with other ethnic groups such as Roman colonists.

In this part of course the all modern historians, even and those that disputed as about the initial origin like Borza and Badian, agree for the Hellenization of the Macedonians we don't see not one quote as about this.Maybe in few years we see (if we stop to fight them) that Filips V and others Macedonian kings fought only for the freedom of Slavonic tribes!!

More as about the Hellenistic period in

http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...alexander.html

The penetration of Slavic tribes towards the Balkans ended at the beginning of the seventh century and created a new situation – Macedonia’s population mixed with the Slav newcomers but retained the Macedonian name, traditions and culture. At the beginning of this period the Macedonians were organized independently in their own tribal communities (sklavinas). Later, they fell under Byzantine and Bulgarian rule, alternatively.

Apo pou na arxiso kai pou na telioso
In this version as about the origin of this Slavonic nation the mixing theory and include Slavs-Romans-Macedonians and finally we have as usual agiain the FYROmian version of Macedonians .Of course not of word as about the Proto-bulgarians ancestors of them.
Of course we read for first time that the Skopjans created the Sklavinie, a tottaly Byzantine term.Theirs propaganda is now in the cycle of the idiocity.Is good for those that know some kind of history(like me) but there are others that sliping in theirs fake historical boundaries
More informations in
http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...macedonia.html
http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...klaveniai.html
http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...excellent.html
http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...an-nation.html

The history of the ancient Macedonian kingdom begins with Caranus, who was the first known Macedonian King (808-778 BC). By the 5th century BC the Macedonians expanded and forged a unified kingdom under Alexander I (498-454 B.C.) Also known as Alexander the Great.

In the final paragraph we have a repeat as about the ancient Macedonian history.Of course we don't read any words for the ancient writers that spoke for the Greekness of the Macedonians.
More as about this in
http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...al-houses.html
http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...yal-house.html
http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...pheidonas.html

[akritas]

Continuing to exposing the Skopjan propaganda by official sourses we just read the same history summary from FYROMIan embassy in Australia!!

http://www.macedonianemb.org.au/index_about.html#BRIEFHISTORICALSUMMARY

However, in 1912 and 1913 three Balkan states - Bulgaria, Serbia and Greece, waged the Balkan wars intending to conquer and divide Macedonia between them. The Balkan Wars between Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia ended with the treaty of Bucharest in 1913, with which, in spite of the protests of the ethnic Macedonians, Macedonia was divided into three parts.

We can read for one more time the nationalistic argyment as about the supposing lMacedonian division of the Slavonic origin and Bulgarian speakers Macedonian inhibants.

As a result, on 11 October 1941 in the Vardar part of Macedonia there was simultaneous uprising against the fascist occupation in Prilep and Kumanovo, where as in 1942 there were uprisings in the Aegean part of Macedonia (in Lerin and Kostur) headed by Lazo Trpovski

Here we have a new Uprising!! How many uprising had done this people!!
I focus in the name.
Lazarus Trpovski
Who is tha guy?
Was a person that liberated from the Bulgarians faschists in 30 June 1941.Jailed because was communist with Greeks and others in the Akronauplia jail. In the speacefic date him and 26 other Slavmacedonian and Rominized Vlachs released from the Germans just decalared Bulgarian nationality.
As about the date for sure is that we talk a pre=SNOF date(Nov 1943) and Ohrana era.
Your conclusions are yours

[akritas]

Enjoy how the FYROMian officials respect this "supposing Interim aggrement" and the VERGINA FLAG

Gotse Delchev Night 2002 from UM in Canada.

Foreign Minister Slobodan Casule

[Titus]

How about this extract from a speech of FYROM's president Branko Crvenkovski to the FYROM parliament on 26th December 2006?

Dear Members of the Assembly,

The concern with the status and rights of the Macedonian national minority in the neighboring countries is our inherent right and obligation.

We insist on consistent application of European norms and standards in observing fundamental human rights and freedoms, among which the right to foster one’s national, cultural and linguistic identity.

The Republic of Macedonia has already proven its readiness to implement solutions in this context that go beyond even the highest international standards.

After all, countries already fully-fledged members of the European Union or countries that are firmly determined to become EU members in the forthcoming period are obliged to apply such an approach and they are obliged to honor their obligations.

Furthermore, this will be another important contribution to strengthening the bilateral relations, confirming the determination to share common European values.

Retrieved from www president.gov.mk/info_e.asp?SectionID=5&InfoID=2307

He doesn't name Greece or Bulgaria directly, but he does speak of "Macedonian minorities" in "neighboring countries" which are "countries already fully-fledged members of the European Union or countries that are firmly determined to become EU members".

[akritas]

Titus in this forum (anti-Greek Macedonia Propaganda) we need only official sourse from the web or scanning pictures that proove our claims and not conclusions.

[Flipper]

What are we waiting for? We should message the Greek Embassy and any other authority.

[akritas]

As you see the FYROMian nationalist propganda goes further.In n#2 post and 5 Oct 2006 the official FYROMian websites quoted for the Balkan wars

However, in 1912 and 1913 three Balkan states - Bulgaria, Serbia and Greece, waged the Balkan wars intending to conquer and divide Macedonia between them. The Balkan Wars between Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia ended with the treaty of Bucharest in 1913, with which, in spite of the protests of the ethnic Macedonians, Macedonia was divided into three parts.

Noe we have nationalistic escalation.
Now focus in the Land



Macedonian Embassy London

And still we talk for Interim Aggrement

[Tsontos]

Magazine "Defence", no.63, July 2001

Roots (4)
Weapons and military skill in Macedonia through history
Alexander The Great – The Most Talented Strategist In The History Of Mankind
Written by: D-r Vance Stojcev


Many of the military leaders later admired and learned from the Alexander’s genius strategic movements and solutions, but he remained one of a kind, the greatest of the military warriors the mankind has ever seen

The Macedonian army armed itself with the existing weapons that were already known. Weaponry was reinforced after the reforms of Phillip II. Old weapons were improved and new types were produced. The most famous weapon workshops were the crafts centers in the city of Gortinia (Vardarski Rid) and in Hallkidikki. These workshops were places where many iron spears, arrows, knifes, swords, helmets, shields were made. In the time of Philip II and Alexander the Great, there was a production of many weapons that were Macedonian discoveries: long spears – saris, short swords – the famous cross-like iron sword – ksiphos, which was 50-60 cm long with a double cutting edge, as well as the curved one-edged sword, armors, bullet-proof vests, lower-leg and elbow protection and protection for horses. Macedonian army, according to the branches and services, was armed by unified weapons. Light infantry had bows and arrows and other types of light weapons. The heavy and light cavalry were armed with short spears, short swords, war axes, helmets, armors, war cars, war elephants etc. Engineering units were equipped with torso catapults, leaders, stone throwing devices, flammable materials and other tools.

Saris – the Symbol of the Macedonian superiority and invincibility

Saris was a specific, Macedonian weapon discovered by Phillip II. The Phalanx and the saris were the reason for the Macedonian superiority and invincibility. The Macedonian army was very much depending on the saris and its efficiency. The frightening action of the Macedonian phalanx, armed by saris and in co-action with the frightening Friendly cavalry created chaos in the enemy’s army. The saris was designed as 8 m long (24 feet or 7,34 m), but due to practical reasons, it was shortened down to 6,4 m (or 21 foot). Saris was made of three metal parts: leaf-like tip with a body, a link and an iron handle – the end of the spear.

The Macedonian phalanges, when in offense, used both of his hands to hold the spear that was 4,5 meters long in front of his body. The Macedonian phalanx mainly lined up itself in 16 rows, having 1 meter distance between the soldiers, which means that the first four rows could have stretched their saris in combat while the remaining rows moved with their spears held upwards. Such an image of the Macedonian phalanx in movement, with strictly defined lines, brigades and companies, and yet, lined up with their spears upwards and downwards, created the impression that it could defeat anything in front of itself. Previous practices of the formation of oblique line and in co-action with the heavy cavalry made the Macedonian army invincible. Besides, Macedonia became one of the biggest producers of weapons and military equipment.

Beside the weapons, the military equipment of the Macedonian army was also different from the rest of the ancient ethnic groups. The helmet was made from iron having an egg-like shape. There was a tip on the helmet which symbolized an eagle or a hawk when attacking.

Macedonian kings had a specifically developed signal system, with flags which marked the beginning of the battle or the attack of a certain military formation. There were several flags in different colors in the main headquarters. There was a flag made of red canvas attached to the tip of the spear and the rising of the flag marked the beginning of the combat. Military formations’ flags were in different colors. Each of the military formations had its own flag in the main headquarters. The rise of that flag marked the beginning of the attack by certain military unit.

Macedonia in the time of Alexander the Great

Macedonia is the oldest state in Europe. It was founded in 825 bc. when Karan was declared to be the first Macedonian king disregarding the previous ones since there are only mythological stories about them. Athens was founded in 776 and Rome in 753 bc. Alexander was born 500 years after it was founded. The oldest state got its most famous son.

[Truth Bearer]

What a load of rubbish Athens was founded well before1000 B.C how on earth did that stupid south western bulgar get his historical lies from????

[Truth Bearer]

The Acropolis of Athens was inhabited from Neolithic times. By 1400 BC Athens had become a powerful center of the Mycenaean civilization. Unlike other Mycenaean centers, such as Mycenae and Pylos, Athens was not sacked and abandoned at the time of the Doric invasion of about 1200 BC, and the Athenians always maintained that they were "pure" Ionians with no Doric element. However, Athens lost most of its power and probably dwindled to a small hill fortress once again.

By the 8th century BC Athens had re-emerged, by virtue of its central location in the Greek world, its secure stronghold on the Acropolis and its access to the sea, which gave it a natural advantage over potential rivals such as Thebes and Sparta. From early in the 1st millennium, Athens was a sovereign city-state, ruled at first by kings (see Kings of Athens). The kings stood at the head of a land-owning aristocracy known as the Eupatridae (the "well-born"), whose instrument of government was a Council which met on the Hill of Ares, called the Areopagus. This body appointed the chief city officials, the archons and the polemarch (commander-in-chief).

Before the concept of the political state arose, four tribes based upon family relationships dominated the area. The members had certain rights, privileges, and obligations:

History of Athens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia