Propaganda from Official Fyromian sites

[Amarantos]

Φαινεται οτι ο μακεδονας πρωθυπουργος (τον κωστακη εννοω μην μπερδευτει κιολλας και νομιζει οτι μιλαμε για κανεναν αλλον ) μαζι με ολο το συναπαντημα, αν και ειχε την ευκαιρια να δει την συγκεκριμενη φωτογραφια στον πασιγνωστο ιστοτοπο του in.gr την 16/08/06, ηταν απασχολημενος με κατι σοβαροτερο και του διεφυγε.

news in.gr - Ç áìïéâáßá ëýóç äåÃ* èá áðåéëåß ôï óõÃ*ôáãìáôéêü üÃ*ïìá ôçò Ã�ÃÄÌ, äÞëùóå ï Ã�.Ãêñïýåöóêé

Υσ. δεκαπενταυγουστος ρε σεις, τα μπανια του λαου, καυσωνας....

[akritas]

The political Part “Macedonian Alliance” with president the Dzordzi (George) Atanasovski in clear violation of Article 7 of the Interim Accord is a registered political party with the FYROM.

Look what they mention in theira Statute

MACEDONIAN ALLIANCE

In accordance with Article 20. paragraph 1 and 2 of the Constitution of Republic of Macedonia and Article 9 of the law for political parties, the Inaugural meeting of Macedonian Alliance on 14th Jan. 1996 established

STATUTE OF THE MACEDONIAN ALLIANCE

1. GENERAL REGULATIONS

Article 1
This Statute defines the following :

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Article 6
The Alliance has a flag and coat of arms.
The flag of the Alliance is red and in the middle there is a golden yellow sun with a blue flower.
The rate between width and length of the flag is two to three.
The coat of arms is a shield with red part. In the middle of the shield there is a golden yellow sun with a blue flower.

MACEDONIAN ALLIANCE

The 55 years old Gjorgjija George Atanasoski was president and is the founder of the North American All-Slav Macedonian Congress. In the past (1994) he tried to become president of FYROM.

MACEDONIAN ALLIANCE

below is the president Gjorgjija George Atanasoski with the Vergina symbol in the MAC flag




"Macedonian" Allience is the sponsor of the Statues of Great Alexander in FYROM.

[Truth Bearer]

I'm telling you it's the fyromians from the diaspora that are bankrolling all this pan fyromian natioanlistic stuff Akritas......

[Tsontos]

The Skops used the excuse of the Ohrid Security forum to make a history page with all the usual FYROM nationalist historical narrative found on it: EAPC Security Forum

[Astoria]

out of curiousity, has any sent this to greek authorities? (concerning the propoganda from mak embassy in UK)

[Tsontos]

Greek authorities couldnt give a stuff. Pretty hard for them not to know about the official use of Vergina by FYROM munipalities and the various other crap in this thread.

[Draco]

http://www.mfa.gov.mk//default1.aspx?ItemID=291

Read the whole damn thing! The propaganda in this quote says it all

In the period from 969 until 1018, a vast empire of the Macedonians emerged, second empire of the Macedonians after the empire of Alexander the Great, the Empire of King Samuel with its capital in Ohrid.

Arguably however this is yet another gift for Greece, grounds to veto (it is a violation of the Interim Agreement or pretty close, isn't it?). Unless of course FYROM is planning on using this as another bargaining chip (like the flag).

[akritas]

Originally Posted by Draco

"Macedonia's history" according to FYROM's YPEX

Read the whole damn thing! The propaganda in this quote says it all

Arguably however this is yet another gift for Greece, grounds to veto (it is a violation of the Interim Agreement or pretty close, isn't it?). Unless of course FYROM is planning on using this as another bargaining chip (like the flag).

How the Byzantine history falsificated ?

The penetration of Slavic tribes towards the Balkans ended at the beginning of the seventh century and created a new situation - Macedonia's population mixed with the Slav newcomers but retained the Macedonian name, traditions and culture.At the beginning of this period the Macedonians were organized independently in their own tribal communities (sklavinas). Later, they fell under Byzantine and Bulgarian rule, alternatively.

And of course in the below quote

The Krushevo Republic was declared, the first Republic on the Balkans with a President and Parliament with representatives of all ethnic communities.

The Parliament didnt have "ethnic Macedonian" representatiives. As also the flag was ....



a common Bulgarian historical flag.

[Draco]

Originally Posted by akritas

How the Byzantine history falsificated ?

The penetration of Slavic tribes towards the Balkans ended at the beginning of the seventh century and created a new situation - Macedonia's population mixed with the Slav newcomers but retained the Macedonian name, traditions and culture.At the beginning of this period the Macedonians were organized independently in their own tribal communities (sklavinas). Later, they fell under Byzantine and Bulgarian rule, alternatively.

When this is added in the context of their official ideology (that Ancient Macedonians were an independent Indo-European people who were absorbed by the Slavs when they arrived in the ~7th century) it is propagandistic.

Originally Posted by akritas

And of course in the below quote

The Krushevo Republic was declared, the first Republic on the Balkans with a President and Parliament with representatives of all ethnic communities.

The Parliament didnt have "ethnic Macedonian" representatiives.

I think the views of the authors of that text are pretty clear, they just slipped up (forgot that its parliament didn't have "ethnic Macedonians").

[Xiotis]

This comes from the website of:

"The Embassy of the Republic of Macedonia in Canberra, Australia"

http://www.macedonianemb.org.au/index_about.html

I draw your attention to the mythical historiography which implies a "Macedonian nation" existed during biblical times:

This is an apt moment to ask the question: Why did Paul the Apostle come to preach the new idea first in Macedonia and not in some other European country? How shall we explain this fact? What was it that attracted the attention of this apostle? There can only be one explanation: Paul the Apostle was a brilliant man who knew very well that in order to spread his gospel successfully he should win over to his side a renowned and dignified nation, equal to the Romans in the strength of its spirit. In those ancient times Macedonia was such a nation. To deny the existence of Macedonia and the Macedonians means to deny the truthfulness of the Bible, and the work and the epistles of the greatest among the apostles, Paul. Everybody knows that Paul the Apostle preached among the Macedonians, established church communities in Macedonia, sent epistles to the Macedonians in Philippi and Thessalonica, which have endured as an integral part of the Bible, read daily by cultured Christian people.

And I draw to your attention the theory that slavs mixed with the original Macedonians to form the modern "Macedonian ethnicity":

The penetration of Slavic tribes towards the Balkans ended at the beginning of the seventh century and created a new situation - Macedonia's population mixed with the Slav newcomers but retained the Macedonian name, traditions and culture

I wonder what sources they base this mythology on? The scholars they quote ad infinitum all over their nationalist websites, Badian and Borza, tell them that the Macedonians were at the very least fully Hellenized by the Hellenistic era.

These people are getting more and more delusional by the day!