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Old 06-01-2008, 07:33 PM
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Good ole Demosten. Tells it like it is.
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Indeed... to bad skopjian propagandists re-interpret his words to fit their pseudo ideological agendas.
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Can anyone make a search to find a quote of Demosthenis that state clear.............Peloponnesus and Hellas ?
Demosthenes? Cant find any from him but these are some old ones you posted in here a while back,

http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...-hellenes.html
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Good ole Demosten. Tells it like it is.
Relax Be ...when I was a kid my grandmother used to call me "devil" (βρε διάολε !!!), because I was very naughty ...Are you going to use her testimony to prove that the Greeks of Macedonia are "evil demons" ??
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Demosthenes? Cant find any from him but these are some old ones you posted in here a while back,

http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...-hellenes.html
I have found a quote from Hall in Hellenicity (page 128) that mention.........

Demosthenes warning (19.303) that Philip II of Macedon was fostering alliances "throught Hellas and the Peloponnese" and ....

This is that I searching....
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Here is a piece from Wikipedia on the Aeolian dialect where the Atheneans label the Aeolian dialect "barbaric" :

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In Protagoras (dialogue) 341c[1] of Plato, Prodicus labelled the Aeolic dialect as barbarian, while referring to Pittacus of Mytilene

He didn't know to distinguish the words correctly, being from Lesbos, and having been raised with a barbarian dialect

The Aeolic dialect might, in the time of Socrates and Plato, sound so strange to the Athenians, as to be termed, from an exclusive pride in the Attic literary style, barbaros.
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