Macedonian Symbols

[Cadmus]

Bump!

No one about the mysterious Dionysos linked cult of the horned goat??
It was supposed to be a Epiruvian cult/Illyrian...

Olvios???

[olvios]

Epirotes and illyrians dont mix they were distinct like night and day and only changed after few of the illyrian clans were "hellenized".Think more like Epirotes and Macedons as they represent the tribal greek structure and culture.

[Cadmus]

Hi!

But nothing about the horned goat cult?
I read on Wikipedia it was a ancient cult pre-dating the Dionysos one, but the artical did not mention whether it was Epirote or Illyrian...

[olvios]

Read "nonnus Dionysiaka" its Greek not illyrian.

[Cadmus]

Thanks i filed in a request for the Jstor article about Dionysos
in the workionysos's Revenge and the Validation of the Hellenic World-View
Park McGinty
The Harvard Theological Review, Vol. 71, No. 1/2 (Jan. - Apr., 1978), pp. 77-94

Do you know a better source about the nonnus Dionysika?
I mean not a expensive book to buy but an easy accesible book on the internet perhaps or any files...

All the best..

[olvios]

[olvios]

[olvios]

No ,but if i find one i ll tell you!

[Ptolemy]

'The Sack of Troy' from a Greek hydria, now in Naples Archaeological Museum, 480-475 BC)

It seems Achaean warriors used the same symbol in their armours, of course long ago before Macedonians adopted it from the rest of Greeks. We have already seen a couple of them carrrying the symbol but looking closely in this Greek Hydria, things are getting even clearer.

A general view of the Greek Hydria.


2 closer looks.





Now closer look to the greek warrriors.

[Ptolemy]

Athena and Heracles in amphora of 510 BCE. The use of the sunburst is overwhelming.



Athena and Heracles from amphora of 480-470 BCE.



Heracles and Eyrymathian boar from Luvre. Notice Athena's shield!