Alexander the great clearly states that he is not Greek.

[truemac]

Riding to the front line he [Alexander the Great] named the soldiers and they responded from spot to spot where they were lined up. The Macedonians, who had won so many battles in Europe and set off to invade Asia ... got encouragement from him - he reminded them of their permanent values. They were the world's liberators and one day they would pass the frontiers set by Hercules and Patter Liber. They would subdue all races on Earth. Bactrius and India would become Macedonian provinces. Getting closer to the Greeks, he reminded them that those were the people who provoked war with Greece, ... those were the people that burned their temples and cities ... As the Illirians and Trakians lived mainly from plunder, he told them to look at the enemy line glittering in gold ..."


Q. C. Rufus, Alexander III, 10, 4-10
After all, he thoroughly destroyed Thebes. Therefore, his empire is correctly called Macedonian, not Greek, for he won it with an army of 35,000 Macedonians and only 7,600 Greeks.

[Slayer]

Where does Alexander say that he is not Greek?

Getting closer to the Greeks, he reminded them that those were the people who provoked war with Greece,

those were the people that burned their temples and cities ...

Why would Alexander care about this?


And why do you care whether the empire was Greek, Macedonian or from the Moon, it took 1000 years before slavs started to settle in Macedonia so Alexander was long gone before your ancestors began arriving.

And, please do not write in large fonts, it really is uneccessary

[PhiliptheUniterchaeronea]

I'm sorry my Slav friend. I have Rufus' book in my hand now, I am having trouble understanding your interpretation of this quote. Please clarify. Have you read Rufus' book?

[Ptolemy]

Another clueless west-bulgarian troll, providing a quote he doesnt even get what its talking about. Since your inability to make a sensible point is apparent, lets see what did Alexander stated:

3.In his letter to the king of the Persians:

Quote:

Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did US great harm, though WE had done them no prior injury […] I have been appointed hegemon of the Greeks […]

(Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II,14,4)

4. ALEXANDER TALKING ABOUT HIMSELF AND MACEDONIANS
BEING GREEK AND FIGHTING FOR GREECE:

Quote:

..There are Greek troops, to be sure, in Persian service –
but how different is their cause from ours ! They will be fighting for
pay— and not much of it at that; WE on the contrary shall fight for GREECE, and our hearts will be in it.
As for our FOREIGN troops —Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians, Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers of Europe, and they will find as their opponents the slackest and softest of the tribes of
Asia.

Arrian (The Campaigns of Alexander) Alexander talking to the troops before the battle. Book 2-7 Penguin Classics. Page 112. Translation by Aubrey De Seliucourt.

5. Burning Persepolis
Quote:

He set the Persian palace on fire, even though parmenio urged him to save it, arguing that it was not right to destroy his own property, and that the Asians would not thus devote themselves to him, if he seemed determined not to rule Asia, but only to pass through as a conqueror.
but Alexander replied that he intended to punish the persians for their invasion of Greece, the destruction of Athens, the burning of the temples, and all manner of terrible things done to the Greeks: because of these things, he was exacting revenge. but Alexander does not seem to me to have acted prudently, nor can it be regarded as any kind of punishment upon Persians of long ago.

[Arrian Anab. 3. 18. 11-12].

6. Speaking to Thessalians and other Greeks
Quote:

On this occasion, he [Alexander] made a very long speech to the Thessalians and the other Greeks, and when he saw that they encouraged him with shouts to lead them against the Barbarians, he shifted his lance into his left hand, and with his right appealed to the gods, as Callisthenes tells us, praying them, if he was really sprung from Zeus, to defend and strengthen the Greeks.

[Plutarch. Alexander (ed. Bernadotte Perrin) XXXIII]

7. Speaking to his own Macedonian Commanders

Alexander called a meeting of his generals the next day. He told them that no city was more hateful to the Greeks than Persepolis, the capital of the old kings of Persia, the city from which troops without number had poured forth, from which first Darius and then Xerxes had waged an unholy war on Europe. To appease the spirits of their forefathers they should wipe it out, he said.

(Quintus Curtius Rufus 5.6.1)

8.

As for Alexander, it is generally agreed that, when sleep had brought him back to his senses after his drunken bout, he regretted his actions and said that the Persians would have suffered a more grievous punishment at the hands of the Greeks had they been forced to see HIM on Xerxes’ throne and in his palace.

(Quintus Curtius Rufus 5.8)

9. Speaking with Diogenes

But he said, ‘If I were not Alexandros, I should be Diogenes’; that is to say: `If it were not my purpose to combine barbarian things with things HELLENIC, to traverse and civilize every continent, to search out the uttermost parts of land and sea, TO PUSH THE BOUNDS OF MACEDONIA TO THE FARTHEST OCEAN, AND TO DISSEMINATE AND SHOWER THE BLESSINGS OF HELLENIC JUSTICE and peace over every nation, I should not be content to sit quietly in the luxury of idle power, but I should emulate the frugality of Diogenes. But as things are, forgive me Diogenes, that I imitate Herakles, and emulate Perseus, and follow in the footsteps of Dionysos, the divine author and progenitor of my family, and DESIRE THAT VICTORIOUS HELLENES SHOULD DANCE AGAIN in India […]”

[Plutarch’s Moralia, On the Fortune of Alexander, 332A (Loeb, F.C Babbitt)]

10. Dedication of Alexander to Athena

Alexander, son of Philip, and the Greeks, except the Lacedaemonians, from the barbarian inhabitans in Asia

[Arrian, I, 16, 10]


Ancient Macedonian testimonies about their Ethnicity « History Of Macedonia

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[PhiliptheUniterchaeronea]

Ptomely, you really are a general. I hope you write a book.

[Ptolemy]

Thanks Philip for bringing this topic up. I had forgot about it.

Lets see now how this brainwashed west-bulgarian troll distorts the meaning of Curtius quote. With Blue color is everything our troll deliberately left out.

Originally Posted by truewestbulgar

Riding to the front line he [Alexander the Great] named the soldiers and they responded from spot to spot where they were lined up. The Macedonians, who had won so many battles in Europe and set off to invade Asia and the furthest lands of the East as much as their own instigation as at his, these got encouragement from him - he reminded them of their permanent values. They were the world's liberators and one day they would pass the frontiers set by Hercules and Patter Liber. They would subdue not only the Persians butall races on Earth. Bactrius and India would become Macedonian provinces. Getting closer to the Greeks, he reminded them that those were the people who provoked war with Greece, wars occasioned first by Darius and then Xerxes, when they insolently demanded water and earth from them - to deprive them of their drinking fountains and their daily bread when they submited. He reminded them thatthose were the people that burned their temples and citiesstormed their cities, violated all the laws of gods and men ... As the Illirians and Trakians lived mainly from plunder, he told them to look at the enemy line glittering in gold ..."

So our troll intentionally left out lines that made it clear it was the PERSIANS and not the Macedonians, as someone could erroneously think that "burned Greek temples and cities".

Thats why you pitiful west-Bulgarian brainwashed examples of a fascist society will remain eternally the retards everybody in this planet currently thinks of you. You cant write a single thing without lying.

[Ehetlaios]

Originally Posted by Ptolemy

Riding to the front line he [Alexander the Great] named the soldiers and they responded from spot to spot where they were lined up. The Macedonians, who had won so many battles in Europe and set off to invade Asia and the furthest lands of the East as much as their own instigation as at his, these got encouragement from him - he reminded them of their permanent values. They were the world's liberators and one day they would pass the frontiers set by Hercules and Patter Liber. They would subdue not only the Persians butall races on Earth. Bactrius and India would become Macedonian provinces. Getting closer to the Greeks, he reminded them that those were the people who provoked war with Greece, wars occasioned first by Darius and then Xerxes, when they insolently demanded water and earth from them - to deprive them of their drinking fountains and their daily bread when they submited. He reminded them thatthose were the people that burned their temples and citiesstormed their cities, violated all the laws of gods and men ... As the Illirians and Trakians lived mainly from plunder, he told them to look at the enemy line glittering in gold ..."

ΜΠΡΑΒΟ ΠΟΥΣΤΙΕΣ ΤΑ ΣΚΟΠΙΑΝΑ!!!

[Ptolemy]

He is just the sad result of daily brainwashing. I just took a look in their racist site historyofmacedonia org to check what they are using as 'arguments' about Curtius.

They use for example...

[2] "It was decided to raze the city to the ground as a lesson to all Greek states which contemplated rebellion."

[p.21] [Point of interest: "as a lesson to all Greek states". This statement indicates that Macedonia was not, and could not be included in Greece, for Macedonia was the one "giving" the lesson.]

Lets see now what these skopjan fascists again left out intentionally so that they alter the meaning.

"The History of Alexander" By Quintus Curtius Rufus in page 21 contains:

Although Thebes was now entirely in his power, Alexander nevertheless referred the question of her fate to the Representatives of the Greek council. Those recommended harsh punishment; for Thebes, it was recalled, had medized during Xerxes' war and even to that day Theban ambassadors received royal treatment at the Persian court (Diod. 17.14.1-2) It was decided to raze the city to the ground as a lesson to all Greek states which contemplated rebellion (Diod. 17.14.3)

It was decided by the Greek council!!!! In fact some greeks who were hateful to Thebes urged for her destruction. Again skopjan clowns caught to distort historical facts.

[pankration]

As always, logic wins out. Keep it up...you make us proud.

[Truth Bearer]

Well done lads but really the moron has no idea just cuts and pastes from those Slavic propaganda sites and he thinks he's getting an education......