'Alexander the Albanian' Part II

[Ptolemy]

New Albanian "Proofs" about the... Albanian origins of Alexander

There are few places where Alexander the Great's influence has not been felt. His vast empire spread from the Atlantic shores of Spain to the plains of India. His example has been admired and followed for generations to come, and his legacy has been deeply felt by the entire world. It is said that Julius Ceaser himself began to weep as he stood under the shadow of a statue of Alexander the Great, for Alexander had conquered half the world by 19, and Ceaser not even made a name for himself by that age.
And how was he Albanian in any way? Well, first of all Alexander was son of Philip II and Olympia. Olympia, was the princess of Epirus, a province in Northern Greece, considered to be modern day Albania, and an ancient territory of Albanian tribes. This relation of Alexander having Albanian blood is considered somewhat feasible and acceptable by the history books, but we want to stretch out the enigma of Alexander.
Initially there is the question of where and to what people Alexander belonged to. It is known that Alexander the Great, was really Alexander of Macedon, and the current flag of Macedonia is the ancient sun flag of Alexander's army. This seems reasonable, but what really were the "Macedon" people. As stated in the Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia, "the Slavs, occupied much of the area [Balkans] by the 6th century AD", so it cannot be possible for the now largely Slavic Macedonia to be a descendant from Alexander the Great. Slavic tribes did not come into the region of Northern Greece until well after Alexander's death, which leaves only two people left, the Albanians and the Greeks. It is important tot note that the history books have not labeled Alexander Greek, and therefore he can only be Albanian. Albanian tribes are the earliest known to occupy northern Greece, and that allows Alexander only one nationality. Alexander did not have Albanian blood, he was an Albanian. To Albanians this fact seems very clear, for we have named our currency lek, after Leka I Madh.
The Barbaric war style of the Illyrians was deeply rooted in Alexander's spirit, which is good reason for his expertise as a general and a conqueror.
More proof of Alexander's Albanian ancestry would have to be the close relations he had with the King of the Illyrians, practically a man of his own kin. There is an ancient legend that the Illyrian king gave Alexander a large, beastly, dog to commemorate his achievements. The beast was so ferocious, Alexander decided to make it hunt bears. The dog showed no interest in this endeavor and lay lazily without moving. This angered Alexander and he had the dog killed. When the king of the Illyrians heard of this he sent him another dog, this time with a message of "not wasting the dog's time with small things". This time Alexander had the dog fight a lion, which the dog quickly broke the back of, and then an Elephant, who the dog forced off a cliff. The extensive diplomacy between Alexander and the Illyrians only suggests that Alexander was an Albanian himself.
Also, there is the conquered territory of Alexander. When looking at a map of his advances, oddly enough Illirium and Northern Greece is not touched by his armies. Yet, the Illyrian and Northern Greek tribes did not have armies capable of facing the Great Alexander. But Alexander considered them as one, they were all Albanian. Alexander could not possibly conquer his own land. That is why this area remained untouched.
Accepting Alexander's Albanian ancestry opens a vast world of possibilities. There is of course the long Ptolemy dynasty of Egypt that followed after Alexander's death, started by one of Alexander's generals and childhood friend. Accepting Alexander as an Albanian, would mean accepting a big part of Egypt's history to be determined by an Albanian dynasty, that of Ptolemy.
Alexander's genius and accomplishments opened a great chapter in the history of Albania. A chapter that has never been forgotten.


Sources:
1. Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia Deluxe © 1999 The Learning Company, Inc. "Alexander the Great"
2. Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia Deluxe © 1999 The Learning Company, Inc. "The Slavs"
3. "The History of the Boerboel in South Africa" <http://www.sabt.co.za/page2.htm>

Lie #1 "for Alexander had conquered half the world by 19, and Ceaser not even made a name for himself by that age. "

Alexander by 19 was not even king of Macedonia. For the sake of materiality Philip was assasinated in 336 BC and Alexander was at the time 20.

Lie #2 "And how was he Albanian in any way? Well, first of all Alexander was son of Philip II and Olympia. Olympia, was the princess of Epirus, a province in Northern Greece, considered to be modern day Albania, and an ancient territory of Albanian tribes. "

Ancient Epirus is considered to be today a part of modern Greece and modern Albania. The rest is undiluted gibberish.

Lie #3 "This relation of Alexander having Albanian blood is considered somewhat feasible and acceptable by the history books,"

If he refers to Albanian history books maybe he is right. For the Historical books of serious historians this is just entirely absurb.

Lie #4 "It is known that Alexander the Great, was really Alexander of Macedon, and the current flag of Macedonia is the ancient sun flag of Alexander's army. "

More gibberish...Alexander's army hadnt got any flag. The so-called Sunburst of Vergina is currently considered as symbol of Macedonian royal house.

Lie #5 "It is important tot note that the history books have not labeled Alexander Greek, and therefore he can only be Albanian."

Its important to know this author is a clown since he didnt even cared to read any ancient source.

Just two of them.

In his letter to the king of the Persians:

Quote:

Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did US great harm, though WE had done them no prior injury […] I have been appointed hegemon of the Greeks […]

(Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II,14,4)

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Quote:

……………There are Greek troops, to be sure, in Persian service –
but how different is their cause from ours ! They will be fighting for
pay— and not much of it at that; WE on the contrary shall fight for
GREECE, and our hearts will be in it.
As for our FOREIGN troops —Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians,
Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers of Europe, and they will find as their opponents the slackest and softest of the tribes of
Asia.

Arrian (The Campaigns of Alexander) Alexander talking to the troops before the battle. Book 2-7 Penguin Classics. Page 112. Translation by Aubrey De Seliucourt.

Notice his use of 'FOREIGN' about Illyrians!

Any ancient source identifying him as...Albanian? LMAO

Lie #6 "Albanian tribes are the earliest known to occupy northern Greece, and that allows Alexander only one nationality. Alexander did not have Albanian blood, he was an Albanian. To Albanians this fact seems very clear, for we have named our currency lek, after Leka I Madh."

Of course it would seem to Albanians very clear, since they are suffering from CLUE DEFICIT DISORDER. There arent any ancient sources claiming of "Albanian tribes to occupy Northern Greece". Perhaps the author should sue his brain for non-support.

Lie #7 "The Barbaric war style of the Illyrians was deeply rooted in Alexander's spirit, which is good reason for his expertise as a general and a conqueror."

As war style You mean the...Phalanx?

Lie #8 "More proof of Alexander's Albanian ancestry would have to be the close relations he had with the King of the Illyrians, practically a man of his own kin."

So following this moronic Albanian logic, should we also assume Just because Philip had close relations with Thebes that must mean he is a..Theban?

Lie #9 "There is an ancient legend that the Illyrian king gave Alexander a large, beastly, dog to commemorate his achievements. The beast was so ferocious, Alexander decided to make it hunt bears. The dog showed no interest in this endeavor and lay lazily without moving. This angered Alexander and he had the dog killed. When the king of the Illyrians heard of this he sent him another dog, this time with a message of "not wasting the dog's time with small things"."



Lie #10 "Also, there is the conquered territory of Alexander. When looking at a map of his advances, oddly enough Illirium and Northern Greece is not touched by his armies. Yet, the Illyrian and Northern Greek tribes did not have armies capable of facing the Great Alexander."

Has this lascivious yokel ever heard of Alexander's campaign against Ilyrians? Or even worst for him the campaigns of Philip II against Illyrians?? Or maybe for him Bardyllis' thousands dead troops commited...mass suicide lol.


"Sources:
1. Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia Deluxe © 1999 The Learning Company, Inc. "Alexander the Great"
2. Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia Deluxe © 1999 The Learning Company, Inc. "The Slavs"
3. "The History of the Boerboel in South Africa" "

So leaving out Compton's Encyclopedia where it says nowhere Alexander is Albanian, this leaves us the totally unrelated to the subject "History of the... Boerboel in South Africa".

Sounds like our jester couldnt even find a single historical source to support his illusions.

[pankration]

I found your commentary on the Albanian statements enlightening and HILARIOUS! I'm still laughing!

[gmellos]

The problem is that IF we don't resolve this bullshit lies and attempts on our history people will start to believe this crap. Just some people think 300 is historically accurate!

[nikosart]

Im in tears.

If he is Albanian, then why stop there, lets call all the Greek Heroes Albanian. Too funny.

This is coming from a country that is still 50 years behind the rest of Europe.

[pankration]

Originally Posted by nikosart

Im in tears.

If he is Albanian, then why stop there, lets call all the Greek Heroes Albanian. Too funny.

This is coming from a country that is still 50 years behind the rest of Europe.

The only thing noteworthy of Albania today is how many people want to leave it! Just ask ANY Athenian what they think of Alexander the Albanian

[TallOne]

For a start. Alexander did not even conquer Spain! And Spain is not even on the Atlantic Ocean! Portugal is! What dunce wrote this bull shit!?

[Andrew]

There is an ancient legend that the Illyrian king gave Alexander a large, beastly, dog to commemorate his achievements. The beast was so ferocious, Alexander decided to make it hunt bears. The dog showed no interest in this endeavor and lay lazily without moving. This angered Alexander and he had the dog killed. When the king of the Illyrians heard of this he sent him another dog, this time with a message of "not wasting the dog's time with small things". This time Alexander had the dog fight a lion, which the dog quickly broke the back of, and then an Elephant, who the dog forced off a cliff

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SCIENTIFIC PROOFS OF MACEDONIAN ORIGINS

...and analyzing the dog's shit ...we will prove that the dog use to eat chocolate from Brasil and Mexico...because the Aztecs e Majas are Albanian coloners !!!!
xaxa xaxa xaxa

[pankration]

Originally Posted by TallOne

For a start. Alexander did not even conquer Spain! And Spain is not even on the Atlantic Ocean! Portugal is! What dunce wrote this bull shit!?

Those editors at Compton's Encyclopedia should be shot! Other than a few colonies in the western Mediterannean, there was a limited Greek presence in western Europe. Alexander intended but did not live long enough to conquer those areas. If anything, his cousin Alexander, should be credited with establishing a presence in Italy but since he was killed in battle, even that connection is lost.